This is more than the average fossil car owner pays in gas taxes, and really bad policy during a world fuel shortage.
I’m not against an annual fee for electric cars, but it should be going to the state and not the federal government. The problems have with this are:
- goes to the feds instead of the states
- too high, even when using the averages
- averages are unfair to those who drive under the average
- money likely not fully going to road upkeep, and most certainly not to funding public transportation
Address those, and make it ten cents per mile driven for all I care.
Make it a fee based on vehicle mass and miles driven, have it apply to all vehicles and eliminate the gas tax.
Or don’t eliminate the gas tax, charge ICE vehicles for both, and then use all that money to fund the infrastructure for people to not literally need a car to live.
That would be a logical and fair way to do it. Which is why it’ll never happen.
And what about states that already charge? Texas charges $200/yr for EVs for the same reason. Will we be double taxed?
It is $250 a year for Ohio.
Well, ICE cars already are. I don’t know about Texas but certainly here in California there’s federal taxes on gasoline and state taxes. The state taxes are always explicitly paying for road maintenance, and the federal taxes pay for “infrastructure” in a vague but probably reasonable manner.
We’re all getting lost on the weeds on this one, but in general both the states and the feds are looking to make up the revenue needed to support road infrastructure lost when someone doesn’t buy gas.
And a reasonable person realizes that probably has to happen, but would look for a fair way to do it. A magat looks for a way to hold back any technology that doesn’t enrich their buddies
Why would you want an electric car tax?
Gas taxes pay for road construction in most/all states. No gas means no gas tax, which means the funding for infrastructure goes away.
I’m not agreeing or disagreeing with the proposal, but that’s the idea anyways.
Hmm
Sounds like a great idea to tax the wealthy in those areas and use it to fund the public services like roads that they force their employees to use to drive to work.
And maybe some public transit too so you don’t need to use a road. Or a car. Freedom of choice and all that.
But yeah, they’re gonna try to tax them more and more because we certainly couldn’t gain energy independence, oh no no.
Wonder when the solar tax comes in. Gotta tax the sun for giving the plebians free energy. Damn commie sun.
We do NOT want an electric car tax, but it would be fair to treat EVs fairly, especially if it goes toward transportation infrastructure fairly.
Some of the problems with current funding
- gas tax is insufficient. If we truly want to cover transportation infrastructure, we need to double or triple
- gas tax is unfair, even before we get to EVs. A more efficient vehicle does not need less infrastructure spending
- goes toward roads, almost exclusively, new projects almost entirely. I know maintenance is boring but it needs to be done, and should be what we need to solve the problem, not just default to road
- most transportation options have been starved of funding for a century. We need to fix that. We need choices. We need more scalable support, both up and down
Well, you’re also Canadian so it could be any price for all you care lol
I live in the US, and drive an EV. For the record.
I always assumed you lived at the North Pole 🤔
Oh, you
IDK what the fee is for ICE cars, but here (Denmark) all cars have a yearly fee, but EV is generally cheaper, because the fee is based on fuel economy, and the fuel economy of an EV is way better than ICE.
In the US, every car has an annual registration fee (proportional to its value) paid to a state agency. In addition, there are federal and state taxes on each gallon of gas sold meant to be used for maintenance of the roads.
Not exactly, the registration fee is proportional to value too a point, so wealthy people pay less.
So is the $ 130 Fee for EV extra? Is it cheaper or more expensive than ICE?
Well, the idea of the $130 is it would be changed to EV drivers who are not currently paying the 18.5 cents per gallon federal gas tax. If it’s more or less than that depends on how many miles the ICE cars are driving, but on average it looks like the $130 would be higher than the about $90 most ICE drivers pay in federal gas tax.
Thanks. 👍
would be changed to EV drivers who are not currently paying the 18.5 cents per gallon federal gas tax.
That’s bullshit IMO. That’s like punishing people for buying a car that uses renewable energy, over an ICE stinker that ruins the environment both locally and globally.
So they continue more than half a century of bad practices.
My god American law makers are idiots. 😡
That’s a crock of shit. In my gas VW, I pay about $54 in federal gas taxes per year.
The average American drives a lot, and does so in a large and inefficient vehicle
I drive about 15,000 miles a year, which is way above average for my state.
Not that much compared with the national average which fluctuates a bit, but is around 13,500 miles per year
That’s just an argument for a mileage based fee
Weight and mileage to be honest
No one ever wants to hear that. They complain about EVs being so much heavier, doing so much more damage to the road ……
But don’t like hearing that road wear varies to the fourth power of axle weight so all cars are essentially the same and insignificant compared to trucks.
And especially don’t like hearing that I completely agree on varying by weight, for both fairness and that my EV is much lighter than their effing full sized pickup truck
Can we just tax based on the number of hair follicles coming out of my ass?
Discriminates against Greeks
Add it to the ice vehicles too.
They’re so busy fighting the culture war, maybe they’ll stop fighting the Iran war
They can lose multiple wars at once - but they can make it super ugly the whole time
This is more than the average fossil car owner pays in gas taxes
I try to drive my ICE car less these days since we have a short-range EV I can use for local runs, but when I was having to fill up my car about once a week, I’d be filling up about 10 gallons, and in CT the gas tax is 25¢/gallon, which works out to exactly $130 annually. Unfortunately that’s state tax and not the federal 18.4¢/gallon, which works out to just under $100 annually.
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