• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    1 year ago

    It reeks of elitism and it’s alienating.

    What aspect of recognizing Florida as a shithole with a fascist governor reeks of elitism?

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      1 year ago

      The part where Republicans are playing the victim about everything now, so if you insult them, You’re just an elite liberal

      /s if it wasn’t obvious

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        1 year ago

        Or you didn’t even look at the objectively shitty things about it and only hate it because the mainstream media told you too (not fox the most mainstream of medias, the OTHER msms)

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        1 year ago

        This particular chain of posts has nothing to do with republican vs democrat. The person I replied to said “Plus there’s hope that one day DeSantis will be gone and maybe a lot of those things will turn around.” Does that sound like a republican being happy about desantis to you? As for myself, I said dismissing entire places because of a few negative aspects (i.e. the republican rule there), even if major, is elitist because you’re ignoring the day-to-day that the person I was replying to mentioned that includes many positives.

        It’s not a liberal exclusive thing. Trump dismissed a bunch of “third world countries” as shitholes and that was actually who I was thinking of when I made my post. You just assumed I was talking exclusively about liberals because you treat politics as a sport with only two teams and that because I hit some key words in your mind, it made you assume a whole load of things about me and my post.

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          1 year ago

          Why not? Many republicans want trump gone because he makes it difficult to really hurt people and be greedy the way they want to

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      1 year ago

      The part where you ignore the rest of the state’s aspects, focusing on the worst parts only.

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        1 year ago

        “Yeah, the rampant bigotry and misogyny isn’t so bad so long as you’re not trans, black, latino, or a woman!”

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          1 year ago

          That’s not what I said at all. If you think that putting imaginary words in other people’s mouths is a valid form of argument, you’re just a basic trump-chode.

          Rampant bigotry and misogyny is not something that I have observed anywhere in the 21st century. When you interact with people in the real world, they are generally polite rather than bigots. Try going out into the real world sometime instead of believing everything you see on the Internet that’s pushed by rage-inducing algorithms to maximize engagement.

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      That people are turning their noses up at places where they don’t live and assuming that the presence of some bad aspects mean a place is entirely irredeemably bad. Like the person I replied to pointed out, there are day-to-day aspects that often don’t intersect with politics and there is some good to be had there, so condescending pitying is not always warranted. You missed the point by going back to focusing back on the bad parts and dismissing the entire place as a shithole because of them.

      • Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        And, like all apolitical stances, that comes from a massive position of privilege. You can dismiss things as “politics” because they aren’t about your fundamental existence. Others can’t because “politics” becomes about their fundamental right to exist or what happens if they have a medical emergency.

        And that ignores that “inclusiveness” is less than 14% of the weighting in this study/article. Those states are hellholes for more reasons than just “politics”. It is just that so much of those issues are fundamentally linked since it takes a special kind of stupid to think ANY of this hate is the top priority.

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        1 year ago

        And you’re assuming that the negativity is all assumptions. Some of us have lived in these places and also agree they are overall shit holes. But that’s not to say that when people talk negatively about some place that they are implying that there are no positive aspects. There’s always a silver lining no matter how bad something is, but it is in no way elitist to focus on the overwhelming bad aspects and not mention the few positive aspects.