Obviously these are going to be used for corporate or organizational settings, as it what was then with the so-called Network Computer thin clients which Oracle tried promoting but flopped.
I wonder why they failed previously 🤔🤔
Laughs in Debian
The Live USB disk laughing maniacally at the PC
That’s crazy
Asus and Dell announce their own Mac Minis but this time with blackjack and hookers.
“not power themselfs” ?
Microsoft will determine when the PC needs to be booted up as per your employer’s demands 😆
It’s a really stupid way to describe thin clients, anyway. Assuming that’s what this is. I have no idea why a thin client would need a 2.5Gbps NIC.
I have no idea why a thin client would need a 2.5Gbps NIC.
I know bandwidth isn’t latency but for a thin client having a rock solid network connection to the virtual desktop server is pretty important for the user interface. I’m guessing pushing video and animations can require pretty high data rates, too.
Our best hope is that companies outside the US stop buying Microsoft. People will need to produce computers for them. Then we in the US can import them and run Linux.
‘Someone, do something about our problem so we can take advantage of it’
Fuck this is exhausting
“Some adult needs to come fix my problems for me” seems to be super common these days. It’s partly why the US is in the state it’s in, but certainly not limited to the US.
Its a reality. Why does apple use usb c now? Because someone else got tired of their shit.
Do you say similar about all the corporations and governments who have relied on the US for decades? Hmmm?
Yes. Yes we do. But please fix you god damned country
Yep, spoken like a true American.
corporations
I suppose you mean tech? Many parts of the world offer value for money products. Had it not been the US in anything any corporation needs, someone else will step up.
Besides which most corporations rely on China more than the US now.
governments
Another thing shared and cooperation offered.
Fix your problems instead of expecting others to step in.
It’s like a Chromebook, but for Windows. Only it doesn’t run Windows. Please buy our garbage.
I’m so sick of Microsoft I actually installed Fedora KDE Plasma.
Genuinely, it’s nicer than windows lol
The occasional forum crawling is a bit annoying, but overall it works really well, has more features and looks slick.
Ain’t ever going back.
Excellent! It’s hard to believe how much easier the Linux experience can be than Windows. Take your PC and boot Linux Mint from a thumb drive. If you like it, it can be installed in like 5 clicks. (assuming you already prepped the machine, backed up, etc. I dual booted at first but that only lasted about 2 weeks before I wiped windows)
I have personally since moved to Debian KDE Plasma. It’s a target platform at work, and it’s more of a server machine at home. Plus doing a few more things via CLI or via finding old forum posts or documentation is fine by me.
I might try Garuda on the new PC we’ve been putting together, though. It looks like a well polished gaming-focused OS that is also Arch-based to get me into that whole family of distros. (because Valve went that way of course, and in the future I’ll always want a PC that can seamlessly run SteamVR. Plus computers are fun.)
The occasional forum crawling is a bit annoying
I was on windows since 3.1, dual booted various distros of Linux the past 15 years, and removed windows from my computers over a year ago.
I would have to crawl forums to find fixes for stupid shit in windows once in awhile, less than Linux 15 years ago, but more than Linux in the lead up to getting rid of it. The thing that really pissed me off was the most egregious issues with win10/11 that id be looking for solutions to would always be changed back on the next update.That’s not the worse. The worse is when every goddamn awful thing in your paid-for OS is to be solvable with a time consuming sfc /scannow and another command which always take lots of tine.
I almost consider those [non-working but always peddled first] worse than a greybeard telling you can solve your [Linux] problem fetching the source of 10 packages from git and compiling manually.
Even Steam works perfectly fine.
The only games I can’t play are games that install rootkits that I don’t want anyway. Now I don’t have to explain to people that I don’t want malware on my PC and can just say “Ah, shucks, can’t play, Linux” 10/10 recommend.
Plasma is great, I’m loving Kubuntu.
Unlike Dell, Asus did mention a few more details - the system will pack DDR5 memory, HDMI, USB-A, USB-C, WiFi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3, and 2.5G Ethernet. Exact details regarding the USB and HDMI port were not offered, however.
Isn’t the amount of memory kind of a tiny bit more important than which generation it is?
It’s a streaming PC. Specs don’t really matter. Windows 365@4k60Hz
No, no. You misunderstood. You have a “memory” of a thing called DDR5, which you used to be able to afford and purchase. You are supposed to bring that memory with you to reminisce fondly while using this piece of junk Dell is trying to sell you.
Having memories of having memory?
Memory? What’s that? I’m too American to afford remembering anything, all I do is work.
Actually these laptops may sell well: less memory when RAM is at exhorbitant prices will confer them a hefty price advantage.
At least Linux runs well on old hardware (and still supports)
Going back to the dumb terminal days of the 60s & 70s
Now with added surveillance and advertising!
If the pc has specs to run something from the cloud it has specs to run a local os.
Depends on what you do and depends on how it’s set up.
At a previous job we had thin clients set up to connect to some remote desktops, and indeed they were running an OS locally, but had barely enough resources to run the OS and the client app.
Maybe uould find a version of linux that would run on them. I’m not a linux aficionado but I’ve found cut-down flavours useful in the past when I’ve needed something that could run on a crippled potato.
Again, depends on what your use case is. Even if you find a stripped down OS that’s less resource heavy, you’ll probably still be using the same other software (i.e. same browser on the same modern web, and you’ll be out of RAM once you open 10-20 tabs). If a manufacturer has meant this as base specs for a thin client, you’re not tricking anyone (but yourself) by trying to use it as a full featured computer, and you’re still driving sales (at least on the hardware part) on a deliberately crippled product.
If you want to vote with your wallet (as IMO everyone should), you don’t buy this and repurpose it; you simply don’t buy it.
If you can run it on a pi, you can run it on these
Yep, just looking at it screams thin client. This will have just enough for networking (wifi/bluetooth), running three monitors (no gaming), some 3.5mm audio, and usb 2.0. If it’s business focues, probably some remote mgmt stuff, and maybe a default VPN client.
So a thin client?
Yes. You run windows remotely, probably through that 2.5G ethernet.
I’d rather be struck by lightning than use cloud computing through Wi-Fi.
Sorry I meant that along the lines of “this is already a thing just marketed differently.” Hyping up something that already exists as something new just feels odd and forced. Like if I made a car but called them “vroom vrooms” and marketed them for driving down Young street only.
My guess for the only difference is that it’s locked to Azure
I guess to keep with a car analogy that makes it one of those old electric toy cars that raced on a track with slots for the car.
Yeah I was gonna say. Dell has been making Wyse Thin Clients for a long ass time. This isn’t anything particularly new other than using W365.
I feel bad for the poor bastards that will certainly have these forced on them at the office or at school.
Apparently my job will be getting rid of our personal local network drives (we each have our own only we can connect to) and moving that to Microsoft one drive. Our IT guy hates the new changes, but the orders come from way above. Not sure how well it will work…
We use onedrive at work… everything goes onto onedrive, and then daily we have people bitching that onedrive has deleted their files.
Yup. You’ll have to babysit Onedrive UI client like a toddler. I use rclone when I need guarantees the files were indeed uploaded.
Don’t worry, to make it work,he’ll only need to open the firewall to the Internet for dozens of MS subdomains and thousands of IP’s in ranges that can randomly change from day to day. Totally more an issue for systems which might have been segregated from the Internet before!
/s
