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    18 hours ago

    One not a liberal. Was in the green party until Jill Stein. I like the Greens when you would see them running for all different offices, not just president. Also most greens caucused with Democrats

    Since you voted for Jill Stein, I figured I had to explain how 2 party system voting works

    The current president wants a golf course named after him on the ruins of Gaza. Eric is negotiating the real estate deal. Historically, Republicans help Israel more than Democrats.

    The attack happened a month and a year before the elections most of the armament deals had already been done. what did the Republicans in Congress say? What did 45 say ?

    We saw in the Ukraine war when 45 stopped weapons shipments illegally, and 45 got impeached for that

    Only Congress could stop those weapons and honestly AIPAC is the biggest stumbling block to Congress doing anything

    Harris several times had to say the political thing, respect Israel right to defend itself, but protect the innocent lives of the Palestinians in Gaza. But there was a group of protestors following her around everywhere, even at her book signing about her experience running for president when there was nothing she could do about it almost a year after the election? Why are there not protesters at 45 all the time about Gaza and the Palestinian people?

    Remember that the Republicans have paid people to show up at their opponent’s rallies just to ask questions like what about Palestine.

    Also Jill Stein with no chance of winning. She wasn’t even on the ballot in all 50 states. She could make the statement that would soothe your soul, because she wasn’t going to win. You could have written in Santa Claus and been just as productive.

    So yes you could have voted for someone to soothe you conscience which lead to a Trump owned golf course on the former Gaza strip or you could have voted for someone that would have tried to make it less worse

    Edit: I was not happy about Voting for Harris at all but all things considered, I felt she had the best shot at saving us from the chaos we are currently experiencing and the best shot at doing something about the Palestinian conflict

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      17 hours ago

      Yeah I like my conscience soothed lol. Lol.

      Well maybe the democrats will learn something. As for my vote being productive, you can look at the vote count for Jill Stein and know that I took my ballot, filled it out and walked down to the box and dropped it off. And you could have had my vote except genocide was too sweet.

      Condescendingly explaining how us politics work I think was the strategy in 2024, you should keep doing it, I see your party is having great success with that approach. Try the unelectable approach for anyone left of reagan too, that one has a consistent track record of success too.

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        16 hours ago

        Again not a Democrat. Just knew what was going to happen under 45 and that voting for Stein would lead to 45 being president again.

        That the genocide in Gaza would be worse under 45. Which it is

        Like I said Stein wasn’t on the ballot in all 50 states and couldn’t win

        You just want to be smug and happy in your sheltered position thinking the election was an aristocratic squabble and you farts don’t stink

        Not what us election are now, a dirty fight in the gravel lot outside the local bar.

        And if it all falls down and we turn into fascism you know your smug vote for Stein won’t get you any favors except you feeling superior than everyone.

        Again my vote went to who I though had a shot at beating 45 and in turn helping Palestinians in the long run as again 45 was would be worse and Stein couldn’t win . Or I’m arguing with a bot or agent out of Africa, the middle East or Russia

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          16 hours ago

          This is historically illiterate nonsense.

          Calling me smug is pretty rich.

          What I want is a actual good policy.

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            15 hours ago

            You want actually good policy then vote for people who can actually win, because if you don’t win you can make policy.

            It one thing to vote for the greens if your in a state that is safe and might help them get 5% to get some national recognition. I can actually respect that kind of thinking. Problem is that was not the case at all.

            There are only 2 reasons to vote for Jill Stein was to be a smug person in their safe tower saying, “I couldn’t vote for someone committing a genocide.” When everyone knew that 45 would make things worse. Or you’re a conservative who couldn’t stand not voting and couldn’t vote for 45 so you did the next best thing

            And honestly at this point your a bot or a front because you addressing nothing. Your argument is full of more holes than a colander. Maybe spend some time thinking about how to use your vote to strategically get policies you want.

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              Lol good lord you’re so boring and stupid. I’m not voting for your dumbass candidate. Not a liberal, votes and supports liberal genociders.

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                Again Third time not a liberal or a democrat. My political views are not reflected in the current US political establishment, but I will say a 10 mile walk is shorter than a 100 mile walk

                You really don’t read which at this point isn’t surprising then again your translation program is probably horrible on big words.

                Personal attacks mean nothing you know you can stop at any time .

                Genocider is not even a word.

                Also I notice you never addressed the fact that I have asked 3 times.

                Are the Palestinian better off with 45?

                Again you stated you voted for Stein because of policy, but you knew she wouldn’t win. So I think you just wanted to feel smug saying you didn’t vote for genocide, but your actions have lead to 45 and a golf course on the rubble of Gaza named after 45, so a worse genocide.

                Is it hurting you to remind you your vote to has lead to a worse outcome for the Palestinian people, like all the leftist warned you about?

                Your inaction, when you had the chance, has turned your vote into one of genocide.

                You vote has lead to a genocide of undocumented people in the US

                Your vote has lead to at least 2 murders of US citizens on the streets of Minneapolis

                In your effort to be holier than everyone else, your smug demeanor, and state you didn’t vote for a “Genocider” has lead to worse atrocities.

                But I’m even starting to doubt you voted for Stein as I’m not sure if your in the US.

                Also most of the people I know who are greens are leftist and I never hear leftist refer to liberals as libs only conservatives

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                  I’m genuinely curious: do you think you’re making a point? This is like the most boring dumbass msnbc talking point. You say I’m smug which is. I can’t even express the disdain I have for you lol. You spent time typing out how smart you think you are because there are two parties in the US and that’s why we have to be serious about supporting genocide. Did you reference Miriam Webster to see if genocider is a word? You repeated, not smugly?

                  You’re “not a liberal or democrat” you just vote for them and repeat their talking points.

                  Palestine is objectively experiencing less violence under trump which is wildly pathetic for the biden administration.

                  Lol lmao you don’t know any leftists.