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    It’s a automated test to see if you will log in to Google or if you walk away.

    This is why it’s so inconsistent… It’s only sometimes, it changes if you change browsers or vpn endpoints. They make money from logged out users, so they are testing to see if they can push users into logging in without losing money.

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      Turning a CD into the equivalent of a vynil. Now that’s something I never expected. Looks like a CD could fit maybe 3 tracks?

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        @ICastFist very very short ones maybe. Everything but the very outside edge is already outside of the range designed to be played on a regular turntable, so the surface speed is very low and the angle of the tone arm gets kinda extreme. My automatic turntable won’t play these at all unless you’re very careful since every quick movement of the tone arm that far in makes it think it’s hit the runout groove and stops playback.

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      Oh very nice! I never would have thought that it could be possible to play a CD like that. Your other videos on YouTube are also very cool and interesting.

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    Our community is so delicate. It could die if they see a bot watching a video.

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      No it is a community. It’s just that they’re lying that this is protecting it.

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        I would say it’s not a community just based on the fact that you can’t have any kind of actual conversation in the comments section. Commenting on YouTube videos is just screaming into the void.

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    Google is on an enshittification speed-run. Close-source Android, combine with ChromeOS. Advertise the crap out of YouTube, draconian login requirements. Wherever their income is coming from now, it isn’t from making products users want. Probably the military “AI” overseas contracts.

    I’ve been de-Googling the last few years casually as functional replacements came along and I’m down to threads now, but the icing on the cake was their injecting an ad into a funeral ceremony stream from a church on YouTube. Sure, software-side, we all know why it happened, but just. No.

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      I’m also mostly de-Googled now. I’m not signed in anywhere and don’t use most of the google stuff. It wasn’t really that hard since there are great alternatives. But saying no to YouTube and all the nice channels I’m following is really hard.

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        For youtube just use yt-dlp and download them, can be behind a vpn when you do it. Im not sure if that affects the creator making money though.

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        The nice channels, those days are gone. The internet we knew has been destroyed or will be diminished to an annoying shadow pretty soon. If you had to put a % on what is now monitized or stripped for data what would it be?

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                If you don’t like YouTube with ads then simply don’t use it. Your life can exist without it.

                You’re on a community chat board, people comment. Do you really have to be so grouchy? At least I am here part of the conversation. If you wanna be angry point it at YouTube/google etc not randoms on the internet. I can be cynical but it’s lesser than other things I could be.

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          The primitive technology guy is still going. Wish I could afford the land to try some of the things he does.

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      I’ve started getting captcha every time I do a Google search. Not sure what that’s about but it’s made the decision to pursue alternatives easy.

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        When you are forced to do captchas make sure you do them as badly as possible while appearing to be human!

        These fuckers weren’t even paying attention to the “precision vs. accuracy” concept introduced in the first lecture in the one science class they had to take. Make them pay for their ignorance.

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            Just pretend you are trying to bullshit what the objects you are identifying are as if you actually have no clue what you are supposed to be doing but you have learned basic ways to bullshit your way through. Imagine the captcha as the class you cared about LEAST in school and attempt to answer it as sloppily and half-assed as you can without getting kicked out of class.

            We were born for this calling my friend. Fill out captchas the way society fulfills its promise to provide you with a stable future so you can flourish, I.E. don’t do that all just drown the conversation in meaningless almost sensible crap.

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        Ive been using bing. Not a fan of microsoft but so far it hasnt been too bad

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      That doesn’t make sense though, since they can just create a bunch of free accounts for the bots to use.

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    LMAO at the irony of YouTube taking a stand against bot scraping as if that isn’t Google’s entire business model.

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    Ive been seriously considering just deleting youtube and using nebula in place of youtube. Im just not sure if the subscription is worth it. I love the idea of no ads, supporting the creators directly, and not supporting google. Has anyone here tried nebula? Would love to hear your thoughts

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      I tried Nebula for a while and as the others said, it is worth it, but not enough to replace YouTube for me.

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      I spent a year with it, it wasn’t enough to completely replace youtube but if you have the money I definitely felt it was worth it. I only let it run out for money reasons

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      Great platform with a ton of amazing creators. Definitely worth a subscription, but not a full replacement for yt. Revanced can at least get rid of the ads/improve ux.

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      Would love to quit youtube if most of the people I watch move to Peertube or any other alternative, Like what happened to Twitter and people moved to Bsky

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    What will it take to make PeerTube relevant enough that people will creat content and follow creatos on the fediverse?

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      Most “non tech-savvy” people I’ve tried to explain the concept of open source software and initiatives like the Fediverse to just outright don’t trust them. Whilst they might say they’d prefer for software and services to not track or manipulate them if you asked them directly, they can’t truly conceive of tech that doesn’t.

      The only interactions these people have had with the digital world have been as part of the modern data scraping hellscape that was once termed “Web 2.0” after the internet went mainstream in the '00s. They weren’t part of the internet when it was a niche interest and more open, so they know no better and accept that predatory behaviour as the way of things.

      I’m not an expert in psychology but I don’t think it’s overly dramatic to say it puts me in mind of those poor individuals who were abused as children, never received therapy and go on to seek out other abusers in adulthood.

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      The masses don’t know how to search for information anymore. Not only that, but they are unable to do so with the disparity of their understanding of the search engines and the current state of search engines. People are used to being fed information through an algorithm, and those who control the algorithm aren’t about to promote a competitor that’d take away their money.

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      Is it possible for creators to earn money on PeerTube? If not, maybe that’s what’s holding a lot of them back. And of course the fact that most people don’t know what PeerTube is. It should be easily accessible for everyone and have some kind of system to give the creators money. And make the switch from YouTube easy.

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          Making money on merch/patreon can only happen once your channel is established though. Until then, YouTube creators are dependent on ad revenue to keep them going, and probably operate at a loss until they reach the point where they can supplement that ad revenue. Trying to get yourself established on a platform that doesn’t offer any ad revenue is a much harder sell.

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        It’s possible, but they have to implement the paywall or ad revenue by themselves. They are allowed to monetize, but it’s not necessarily trivial or even profitable, at this point.

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      Accessibility, usability, scalability at very, very large scale, actual searchability, and actual return on investment, because some people actually get money from youtube?

      Actually, peertube, depending on the instance and the popularity of the content, can be incredibly frustrating for a viewer. And it can be frustrating to the content creator. Some people are quick to dismiss minor (and less minor) annoyances, are able to look for fixes, and so on, but for almost everyone? The experience is nightmareish, with incertain returns (or no returns at all, as it stands).

      Once you fix all that, you might have a chance to convince larger entities to move to peertube. Well, more realistically, to host their own instance. Well, more realistically, to host multiple instances, because really some people would hammer the platform down with each video. See the issue yet?

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          Peer to peer viewing can only go so far. Some people, when they put a video out, get hundred of thousands of view in the span of a few minutes. This works relatively well on youtube, with a very large CDN (and probably some heuristics for big accounts). It is enough to hinder “smaller” platforms like dailymotion. It would just be a terrible experience on peertube as it is now, unless the creator preemptively mirrored it in many, many places beforehand.

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              Not really, at least not when viewers all flood in once the video is out.

              In this situation, everyone needs a file, but barely anyone can share it, leading to terrible bandwidth.

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      Nothing.

      There is a massive gap between the aspirations of online consumers, and actual consumer behavior.

      People will never ever support creators, that’s the bottom line. People are greedly little fucks and they like it. Don’t fool yourself.

      I say this as a former massive streamer will millions of watched hours. People. Are. Shit.

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        I think it has a lot to do with people not having enough money. I’d love to support every creator I like but its simply not possible. If we’d all earn enough money the creators would earn more as well.

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          Exactly! Sometimes I feel I do not support creators/open source projects enough, but then I remember I’m dead poor and sometimes can’t afford food without going into debt, so hey, I’m not quite in the position to.

          And there are quite a lot of people like me. Once the situation improves a little, they first improve their standards of living a little, they get to afford and buy things they long needed, and only then can they actually spare money to support someone or something.

          Many don’t get to the latter part for a long while.

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        Sorry, but I don’t think what you said is correct. People love supporting others and it happens all the time to many creators. Sorry your experience was negative.

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    This helps protect our community.

    I hate when companies lie to my face. Watching a video anonymously is not harming anyone except maybe a fraction of a cent of cost to Google. If I was posting a comment or something maybe, but oh, you already need to be logged in for that.

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    Yes. It’s been this way for about a year now.

    Fucking sucks. I used to enjoy looking at YouTube while signed out so that I could see new content that my algorithm refuses to show me. Now I can’t.

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      I can still watch videos logged out most of the time. That message only appears occasionally and when it does I use Celluloid or Freetube to watch the video.

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      I wonder what sort of demographics are effected by this, because it’s the first I’ve heard of it and I semi-regularly browse while signed out.

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        Yeah I’ll frequently pop a private window when watching something I don’t want mucking with my recommendations and I’ve only ever been prompted to sign in for age verification

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      I always use VPN and when I get this nonsense I know it’s nonsense because the video plays perfectly if I switch to a different country and reload the page.