We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.
So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.
Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?
You think North Korea invading South Korea was to liberate North Korea from foreign rule…? Wut
This is more like when Americans went into Canada to “liberate” them
You’re acting like North Korea and South Korea existed as separate, established entities prior to the Korean War. That’s nonsense. It’s projecting the modern state of affairs back into the past. The Korean War is when those entities were established as such. The were communists and anti-communists distributed throughout the whole of Korea, and neither side was interested in setting up a partition that would carve the country in two, until a compromise was negotiated effectively ending the war.
The Republic of Korea leadership was made up of compradors who had been propped up by fascist Japanese invaders and who had switched teams to being running dogs of the US as soon as it became convenient.
The revolutionaries rose up against them, first attacking in the north and establishing a foothold before moving south.(My bad, I mixed up the situation with Vietnam) At this point, the US, seeking to assert dominance over a country thousands of miles away, intervened with one of the deadliest bombing campaigns in history, with an extremely high ratio of civilian deaths, many killed by biological and chemical weapons.Even if the US hadn’t been so brutal towards Korean civilians, it still had no business getting involved. This whole argument of “defensive” wars thousands of miles away is nonsense. It’s the same argument the fucking Roman Empire used to justify conquering Europe:
-Joseph Schumpeter
The peninsula had been divided since 1945 and they had their separate governments since 1948. Korean War started with the North attacking the South in 1950.
Again, neither side saw the partition as a permanent solution, both claimed the entire peninsula. The decision to partition the country was not made by Koreans, but by negotiations between the US and USSR. Koreans have a right to self determination, which includes not having to accept a foreign-imposed partition of their country. The US had absolutely no valid reason for getting involved in an internal conflict, it was pure imperialism.
The right to self-determination I suppose didn’t include South Korean who North Korea attacked?
If Koreans wanted the South Korean government, they could’ve fought for it. On their own. Without Americans coming in and dropping bombs and chemicals and slaughtering civilians in pursuit of their own interests, in defense of their propped up comprador regime.
Again, it was an internal matter for Koreans to settle among themselves. I have yet to see you provide any reason for the US to get involved. And even if they did have a valid reason, it certainly doesn’t justify the way they conducted the war.
The only thing close to resembling a justification that you’ve said is “the North attacked first.” But that doesn’t really matter to me. Revolution is inherently aggressive and revolution is not always bad, therefore, being the aggressor doesn’t always make a side bad. But even if I did consider the North to be in the wrong, we’re not the fucking world police. We had no business getting involved there. Why on earth should we send soldiers, ordinary people, to go off and fight and die on a completely different continent just to further the geopolitical influence of the US government, and the billionaires that control it?
Tell me, who were the beneficiaries of our intervention in Korea? Ordinary Koreans? The ones we dropped chemical weapons on even if they weren’t involved in the war? Ordinary Americans? What the hell did we get out of it? No, the beneficiaries were the Korean bourgeoisie and fascist collaborators and the American bourgeoisie, and no one else. Just like every other military conflict the US has ever been involved in, post WWII.
They did fight for it. North Korea was just much better armed and stronger thanks in large part to USSR’s help. South asked for UN help and got it, much of it provided by the US. And later on China got directly involved.
It doesn’t feel like you’re against getting involved in this type of stuff but specifically angry at the US
The UN at that time was a fairly new institution, and China’s seat was denied to it and given to Taiwan, leading to the USSR to boycott it. The UN that invaded Korea was mostly just the US and Western Europe, it doesn’t provide the moral cover you want it too. Hell, the only reason the UK supported it was because in exchange the US agreed to overthrow Iran’s democratic government that stood in the way of BP’s profits.
Ideally, neither the US nor the USSR and China would have been involved. But if you’re justifying US imperialism by arguing that the USSR and China were being imperialistic, then I see no reason why their positions wouldn’t be justified on the same logic by pointing to the US. It’s nonsense. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Again, it’s a simple question, so go ahead and answer it. Who actually benefitted from the US bombing the hell out of Korea and deploying chemical and biological weapons on its people? And if no one benefitted, then why the hell do you support it?
And yes, for the record, I am “specifically angry at the US” because of the whole “chemical and biological weapons on civilians” thing in this instance and the “global campaign of bourgeois world domination and systematic overthrow of democratic governments” thing more broadly. I don’t understand why you people act like I’m not allowed to hate America.
South Korea benefited from UN (and I’m using that since it was UN who was the participant, not for “moral cover”) driving North Korea back after they had invaded.
All of the casualties could’ve been avoided had both governments stayed behind their respective borders. Like how happened in Germany. In this case it was North Korea who attacked into South, kicking things off.