We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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    The UN at that time was a fairly new institution, and China’s seat was denied to it and given to Taiwan, leading to the USSR to boycott it. The UN that invaded Korea was mostly just the US and Western Europe, it doesn’t provide the moral cover you want it too. Hell, the only reason the UK supported it was because in exchange the US agreed to overthrow Iran’s democratic government that stood in the way of BP’s profits.

    Ideally, neither the US nor the USSR and China would have been involved. But if you’re justifying US imperialism by arguing that the USSR and China were being imperialistic, then I see no reason why their positions wouldn’t be justified on the same logic by pointing to the US. It’s nonsense. Two wrongs don’t make a right.

    Again, it’s a simple question, so go ahead and answer it. Who actually benefitted from the US bombing the hell out of Korea and deploying chemical and biological weapons on its people? And if no one benefitted, then why the hell do you support it?

    And yes, for the record, I am “specifically angry at the US” because of the whole “chemical and biological weapons on civilians” thing in this instance and the “global campaign of bourgeois world domination and systematic overthrow of democratic governments” thing more broadly. I don’t understand why you people act like I’m not allowed to hate America.

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      South Korea benefited from UN (and I’m using that since it was UN who was the participant, not for “moral cover”) driving North Korea back after they had invaded.

      All of the casualties could’ve been avoided had both governments stayed behind their respective borders. Like how happened in Germany. In this case it was North Korea who attacked into South, kicking things off.

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            Well then, I hope you get to experience the same kind of “help” that the Korean people received. Maybe if someone drops chemical and biological weapons on you and your family, it’ll cause people to be wealthier 70 years from now. Sound good?

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              I mean Soviet Union did attack us and cause destruction and deaths in name of helping the Finnish people during Winter War. War reparations after the following Continuation War helped us industrialize. And we’re now pretty wealthy. So I guess we already experienced some of it?

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                War reparations after the following Continuation War helped us industrialize

                Maybe the US should pay the DPRK war reparations, then.

                Maybe they should’ve just done that without dropping chemical and biological weapons on innocent civilians first.

                If only the Soviets had won, maybe monsters like you wouldn’t exist. No wonder you take the side of the Korean fascists, fascist collaborators gotta stick together, huh?

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                  I mean we paid reparations because USSR won. If you wanted to compare Finland and NK then the situation would be that USA won and forced NK to pay the US.

                  If only the Soviets had won, maybe monsters like you wouldn’t exist.

                  Monster? You’re getting a bit emotional

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                    Oh, am I getting emotional? Over the dropping of chemical and biological weapons on civilians? Oh dear!

                    Maybe you should get more fucking emotional. Like what the fuck is wrong with you? You know the US literally recruited Unit 731 to help them commit atrocities, right? Maybe dropping the fucking plague and smallpox onto civilians shouldn’t be treated with fucking “poise and rationality!”

                    Anyone who defends that shit is too far gone to be reeducated.