We all see and hear what goes on over there. Kim will execute kids if they don’t cheer hard enough at his birthday party or something? He’s always threatening to nuke countries and is probably has the highest domestic kill count out of any world leader today.

So I ask? Why don’t any other countries step in to help those people. I saw a survey asking Americans and Escaped North Koreans would they migrate to North Korea and to the US if given the chance (hypothetical for the refugees). And it was like <0.1% to 95%. Obviously those people live in terror.

Why do we just allow this to happen in modern civilization? Nukes on South Korea? Is just not lucrative to step in? SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE!?

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        If Donbas was at the time part of Russia it would be like that. So it’s not really like that. Since North Korea actually went into South Korea with the intention of taking it over.

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      You can’t really “invade” your own country. North and South Korea were two sides in a civil war, with both sides claiming each other’s territory and aiming towards unification. It’s like saying that George Washington “invaded” Yorktown or that Lincoln “invaded” Virginia.

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        The South did invade the North though in the US civil war.

        The Maryland campaign (or Antietam campaign) occurred September 4–20, 1862, during the American Civil War. The campaign was Confederate General Robert E. Lee’s first invasion of the North.

        And if you don’t want to use the word “invaded”, I guess you could just say that North Korea attacked the South, kicking off the war

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          Sure, the North attacked the South. In fact, the North also attacked the North. That’s generally how revolutions work, after all.

          None of this really pertains to foreigners coming in and levelling the country and dropping chemical weapons everywhere and slaughtering a ton of civilians.

          The campaign was Confederate General Robert E. Lee’s first invasion of the North.

          From the Confederacy’s perspective, the Union was a separate country.

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            North started the war and US and other UN troops only came in to help the South after that. The whole thing could’ve possibly been avoided had the North not attacked.

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              Yes, and the American Revolutionary War could have been avoided had the colonists simply accepted British rule.

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                You think North Korea invading South Korea was to liberate North Korea from foreign rule…? Wut

                This is more like when Americans went into Canada to “liberate” them

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                  You’re acting like North Korea and South Korea existed as separate, established entities prior to the Korean War. That’s nonsense. It’s projecting the modern state of affairs back into the past. The Korean War is when those entities were established as such. The were communists and anti-communists distributed throughout the whole of Korea, and neither side was interested in setting up a partition that would carve the country in two, until a compromise was negotiated effectively ending the war.

                  The Republic of Korea leadership was made up of compradors who had been propped up by fascist Japanese invaders and who had switched teams to being running dogs of the US as soon as it became convenient. The revolutionaries rose up against them, first attacking in the north and establishing a foothold before moving south. (My bad, I mixed up the situation with Vietnam) At this point, the US, seeking to assert dominance over a country thousands of miles away, intervened with one of the deadliest bombing campaigns in history, with an extremely high ratio of civilian deaths, many killed by biological and chemical weapons.

                  Even if the US hadn’t been so brutal towards Korean civilians, it still had no business getting involved. This whole argument of “defensive” wars thousands of miles away is nonsense. It’s the same argument the fucking Roman Empire used to justify conquering Europe:

                  There was no corner of the known world where some interest was not alleged to be in danger or under actual attack. If the interests were not Roman, they were those of Rome’s allies; and if Rome had no allies, then allies would be invented. When it was utterly impossible to contrive such an interest—why, then it was the national honor that had been insulted. The fight was always invested with an aura of legality. Rome was always being attacked by evil-minded neighbors, always fighting for a breathing space. The whole world was pervaded by a host of enemies, and it was manifestly Rome’s duty to guard against their indubitably aggressive designs. They were enemies who only waited to fall on the Roman people.

                  -Joseph Schumpeter

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                    The peninsula had been divided since 1945 and they had their separate governments since 1948. Korean War started with the North attacking the South in 1950.