• Shambling Shapes@lemmy.one
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    47
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    1 year ago

    Taylor Swift started out around the same time as the Hannah Montana show, so not that one.

    Taylor Swift and her team have too much business savvy to follow a 00s Disney show as a template, so not number two.

    Trying to cram real life people and things into “jungian archetypes” is reductionist and the online, self-taught philosophist bro’s version of astrology.

    • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      14
      ·
      1 year ago

      Two people thought of evolution at the same time, independently. Two people thought of calculus at the same time. At the right time.

      Sometimes history is just ready for a thing to happen, and it happens. Maybe I muddied the water with my talk of archetypes. I think we can have the best of both worlds here.

        • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Alfred Russell Wallace discovered evolution concurrently with Darwin, and sent him a letter that purportedly spooked him into publishing “Origin of Species” before anyone could ‘scoop’ him. Wallace had proposed natural selection as the mechanism of evolution, what Darwin had been working on independently.

          Calculus was discovered independently in the late 17th century by two great mathematicians: Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz.

          I’m just saying sometimes things emerge because it’s just time for them to emerge. Maybe that’s what happened with Hanna Montana and Taylor Swift. It was just time.

          • Sparky678348@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            1 year ago

            What I’m saying is that’s not relevant, Hannah Montana and Taylor Swift are two different human beings who went on two different journeys that happened to be at the same time. If you’re just saying the world was ready for some children pop stars then I guess it’s hard to argue with that.

      • Shambling Shapes@lemmy.one
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        People have recognized that species changed over time since the BC era. There are records of such from the Latin/Greek area and the Islamic area and Chinese area. Two dudes didn’t magically come up with evolution from scratch at the same time.

        • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          Of course you’re right. It was the mechanism for change, namely Natural Selection, that was discovered.

  • Narrrz@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Jung’s work is too derivative. If you want to be taken seriously, coach it in terms of Freud’s theories.

    • HikingVet@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      How? It doesn’t look like she has had any surgery or injections.

      All I see is different make-up and haircut styles.