• MacAttak8@lemmy.world
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    You realize they will always have some sort of “justification”. Heck, saying “ I felt like it” would be a justification.

    You’re waiting for a line to be crossed that has already been crossed.

    Edit: For your specific cope here: under no legal basis would already having that plane in the air change the legality of the situation. If it was in the air they could’ve and should’ve turned it around.

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      Saying I felt like it is not a justification. Wouldn’t call this a cope either. I know things are bad, but there’s still room for them to get much much worse. I think they will reach that point. It’s just watching the milestones pass now.

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        A justification is any reason given to justify an action. Fascist will always have a justification for their actions. You said you’re waiting for them to stop trying to justify it, but that’s never going to happen. There will always always be bullshit justification.

        Just because things could get worse, doesn’t mean that they aren’t an absolute catastrophe already and it is a cope to sit there and Keep telling yourself” well at least it’s not worse than it is now.”

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          Sure we can spend all day defining words, but that’s obtuse. You very well know what I meant. Not turning an active flight around is magnitudes different than continuing arrests and deportation after a court order.

          A justification requires at least some pretense of a reason. Just because you want to is a statement.

          Once again, it’s not a cope to acknowledge that things are bad now and they can get worse. I’m going to protests, I’ve stopped all discretionary spending, and I tell my story to anyone that will listen (my work has been directly impacted). Hell I haven’t spoken to my Trump voting father in months. Short of taking arms against the government there’s not much left to do, and frankly to get to that level the milestones on the way to the bottom do matter a lot.

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            Bro, you’re the one here trying to nitpick definitions. You just said justification requires A pretense of reason. That reason could very well be” because you wanted to”. There’s no limit to what that reason given could be.

            To save us from the democrats

            To protect this country

            Because I wanted to because only I know what’s best.

            To get back at all those evil doing minorities

            Those are literally all reasons and could be used as justification for actions

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              Okay so we’re going to have to define words.

              Reason:

              1. a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event.
              2. the power of the mind to think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic.

              Please refer to definition 2.

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                I am aware of both of those definitions thank you. literally only reinforces my point. Have a good day.

                I have provided multiple reasons for reasoning. If you’re gonna sit there and wait for them to stop giving excuses for their actions, then you’re never gonna stop waiting

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                  Ignores my statement of active action

                  Claims point was proven

                  Refuses to elaborate

                  Leaves

                  Bold moves

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                    Man, I really don’t know how to help you here. I really have nothing more to argue. I can’t force you to understand language