• LastJudgement@lemmy.world
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    27 days ago

    I never sub, never donate, block all ads and hate twitch as much as the next guy, but…

    Who cares? (Honestly asking here)

    Why do people here care so much? If it is the hypocrisy that IRL streamers can get away with more sexual shit to bait horny lonely losers to donate and watch, that means that that is bad right? Why be mad about less sexuality oozing from vtubers then?

    It feels like I’m missing something here, please help me out.

    (Also lol @ the top comment saying this is proof of “inhumane working conditions” by Twitch, had a good laugh, thank you)

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      26 days ago

      Eh, I have no love for vtubers and I don’t even watch twitch streams, I have no patience for them, yet I kinda care because:

      1. Amazon is using its power to fuck part of its content creators while leaving a larger bunch completely unscathed with pointless double standards. Just shrugging at it makes them more likely to further ignore feedback.
      2. Amazon’s moderation is a piece of shit, akin to Youtube. Streamers that follow the rules can get banned because of loose interpretation of certain rules, while blatant disregard will remain because haha fuck you. Thus, application of the new rule will be inconsistent at best.
      3. Amazon doesn’t actually care about the whole “sexuality” aspect, otherwise they’d go after the many borderline porno streamers.

      But most importantly, I care because it’s a giant corporation fucking the people that help it make money.

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      26 days ago

      Who cares? (Honestly asking here)

      I mean… I can think of at least two groups of people who care, obviously. They just aren’t you.

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      27 days ago

      They’re talking about the working conditions in general, which are indeed deplorable. They’re not saying this specific act is proof of it, or even an example of it.

      Reading comprehension, dude.

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        27 days ago

        The exact quote is “Fuck Twitch and Amazon for their inhuman work conditions”, and I completely agree that Amazon does that. I also know that Amazon is Twitch’s parent company. But what “inhumane work conditions” are there for people streaming on or working at Twitch?

        Also, c’mon, their criticism of this decision in the sentence just before it heavily implies that. Reading comprehension, dude.

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          27 days ago

          Also, c’mon, their criticism of this decision in the sentence just before it heavily implies that.

          That’s literally not how that works, and you even agree in the paragraph above this one. Why are you even arguing about this?

          As for twitch’s working conditions, it’s a company ran by amazon, with management by amazon, so it has a lot of the same problems. From what I understand, the hours are shit, everything is a metric that’s impossible to meet, you’re constantly at risk of being laid off, a lot of the management are jackasses, and it’s very much a bunch of little fiefdoms trying to flex their position and abuse any amount of power they can.

          Like, I can sum it up as simply as “Know how terrible twitch mods are? Imagine working for one.”

          Not quite as bad as the conditions working in an amazon warehouse, sure, but still not something anyone should have to put up with. Regular inhuman working conditions with a focus on gaslighting and abuse, as opposed to an amazon warehouse’s egregiously inhuman working conditions which are focused more on physical abuse.

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            27 days ago

            Funny how you wrote all of that to an off-hand remark about a comment I found funny, and wrote nothing about my initial questions/points. Why are YOU even arguing about this?

            Just because Amazon aquired Twitch does not necessarily mean they took a whole hands-on approach, dude. Since you posted nothing proving “inhumane” working conditions at twitch (everything you said is just “imagine how bad it must be”), I’ll just take that as you conceding your point.

            Have a good day!

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              27 days ago

              Yeah, you enjoy your day and your strawman arguement you ‘won’ against as well.

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      26 days ago

      I don’t care for vtubers but the thing that drove me off twitch was them selectively applying rules so it’s annoying to see then continue to do that and fuck over vtubes while ignoring the 1000s of sexualized streamers targeting minors.