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Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 months ago

Cloudflare plans marketplace to sell permission to scrape websites

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Cloudflare plans marketplace to sell permission to scrape websites

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Cloudflare's new marketplace will let websites charge AI bots for scraping | TechCrunch
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Cloudflare announced plans on Monday to launch a marketplace in the next year where website owners can sell AI model providers access to scrape their
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  • gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world
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    They’re already ignoring robots.txt, so I’m not sure why anyone would think they won’t just ignore this too. All they have to do is get a new IP and change their useragent.

    • redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Cloudflare is protecting a lot of sites from scraping with their POW captchas. They could allow people who pay

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    I have an idea. Why don’t I put a bunch of my website stuff in one place, say a pdf, and you screw heads just buy that? We’ll call it a “book”

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    As someone who uses invidious daily I’ve always been of the belief if you don’t want something scraped, then maybe don’t upload it to a public web page/server.

    • General_Effort@lemmy.world
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      There’s probably not many people here who understand the connection between Invidious and scraping.

    • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
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      Imagine a company that sells a lot of products online. Now imagine a scraping bot coming at peak sales hours and looking at each product list and page separately for said service. Now realise that some genuine users will have a worse buying experience because of that.

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        Yeah there’s way easier ways to combat that without trying to prevent scraping.

        Maybe don’t ship 20 units to the same address.

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    How can I do this without Cloudflare?

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      Put a page on your website saying that scrapping your website costs [insert amount] and block the bots otherwise.

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        The hard part is reliably detecting the bots

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          Also you don’t want to block legit search engines that are not scraping your data for AI.

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            Again: hard to differentiate all those different bots, because you have to trust that they are what they say they are, and they often are not

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              Instead of blocking bots on user agent… I’m blocking full IP ranges: https://gitlab.melroy.org/-/snippets/619

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                It certainly can be a cat and mouse game, but scraping at scale tends to be ahead of the curve of the security teams. Some examples:

                https://brightdata.com/

                https://oxylabs.io/

                Preventing access by requiring an account, with strict access rules can curb the vast majority of scraping, then your only bad actors are the rich venture capitalists.

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