10-year-old Fatima Jaafar Abdullah was killed in pager explosions in Lebanon.

Israel murders another kid again.

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    If iPhones had explosives planted in them straight out of the factory and would’ve went off in New York all at the same time, injuring thousands and endangering people around them, the 24/7 news cycle would’ve already called for total annihilation and what not.

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      Indeed. I’m paging Nasrallah right now that he should update his manifesto

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        10 year old girl clearly was in a right wing terrorist group.

        Wide range bombings like this are not a military tactic aimed at neutralizing a threat. This is literally what terrorists do to cause terror.

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          10 year old girl clearly was in a right wing terrorist group.

          This is what Israelis actually believe

          In an episode of Two Nice Jewish Boys, which aired three weeks ago, host Weinstein said: “If you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow. I would press it in a second.”

          He claimed that “most Israelis” would do the same.

          Meningher added that they would also want to wipe out Palestinians in “the territories.”

          “Because that’s the reality we live in, it’s us or them, and it has to be them,” Weinstein said.

          He added that Israelis want “full-scale war.”

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          Distributing bombs to terrorists is about as exact as you can get. It’s not on Israel if a terrorist lets their kids play with their tools.

          Israel could have leveled a block in Lebanon like they do in Gaza, but they didn’t.

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            It’s not on Israel if a terrorist lets their kids play with their tools.

            Man has pager in his pocket. Man is sitting down having a meal with his family. Pager blows up in his pocket, killing the child sitting next to him, and probably killing or injuring other family members.

            Targeted or not, that child’s death is squarely on Israel. They decided that collateral damage was acceptable when they chose this method of mass assassination.

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            Dropping smaller bombs that kill innocents is still terrorism. It’s not like it’s okay if I blow up a bus just because I blew up a building last week.

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              Blowing up the bus that transports soldiers to camp is a hell of a lot better than blowing up a building where a single officer lives.

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                In this analogy it’s just a city bus. They killed civilians with this attack, I’m not sure if you realize. Unless you think the 10 year old girl was a hardened Hezbollah soldier.

                And yes, it’s better, but not good. Especially since they’re not even at war with Lebanon right now. They’re just trying to expand the conflict to keep the US in a forever war to justify their genocide and so Netanyahu never has to account for his crimes.

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                  A City bus doesn’t actually fit the analogy. Israel didn’t randomly distribute explosive pagers to anyone. They went to a terrorist organization.

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                    They blew up the pagers without knowing where they would be, who they would be next to, or who would be holding them. That’s how the children died. It was really cool how cyberpunk it was, but it wasn’t precisely targeted at all. It’s like blowing up a city bus because you’re pretty sure a Hezbollah member is in it but don’t care about collateral damage at all.

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                  In this case it’s Hezbollah that chose to ‘expand the conflict’ back in October

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            Israel could have leveled a block in Lebanon like they do in Gaza, but they didn’t.

            They absolutely cannot, not without expecting a similar, if not bigger, retaliation from Lebanon, Iran, Insarhallah, and probably Turkey.

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              Lebanon could retaliate, but it’s still going to bring whether Hezbollah is really state sponsored to the forefront of the conflict. The other two countries aren’t going to openly invite US/EU intervention by taking action.

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                Not really. The attack indiscriminately killed and injured many innocent Lebonese. Lebanon is fully justified in responding solely on that basis alone.

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                  That really doesn’t seem to be true though. There’s no reports of anyone injured that wasn’t a militant or directly related to one. This doesn’t seem to be a case of 100s of innocent’s to a single target, it appears to very much be the opposite. That is expressly not indiscriminate.

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                    So you have information saying that 2000+ people injured were all Hezbollah? Please share a link

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                Turkey literally said they were willing to intervene if the conflict further escalates.

                And if Israel bombed Lebanon, it wouldn’t matter whether Hezbollah is state sponsored or not. They would be attacking Lebanon’s sovereignty.

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            Distributing bombs to terrorists

            What if you distribute bombs to Lebanese civilians, detonate them, and then label the corpses “Terrorist” after the fact?

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              Then there would be news articles about mass civilian casualties, and not the focus on a single girl who was the daughter of a Hezbollah militant.

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                Then there would be news articles about mass civilian casualties

                You’re literally posting under one of them.

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                  Focused on a single person who was in a car with a Hezbollah member when the pager exploded. Yes it’s unfortunate she died instead of her father, but it’s hardly proof of indiscriminate attacks.

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                    who was in a car with a Hezbollah member

                    “How do you know he was a member?”

                    “He must have been a member because he was using a pager”

                    Perfect impenetrable circle of logic.