Their instance won’t be able to interact with ours. If everyone does it we basically wall them in their own garden. But this time of our making. This honestly won’t stop their content being reposted here.
Idk he sounds pretty reasonable to me and is specifically not lumping everyone into the same group as you are. Not everyone shares your opinion. Not everyone cares enough. I think the individual should be able to decide for themselves, and the ability to block an instance yourself is something desperately needed over this kind of wanton shutting out of things only some people are against.
They can always make an account that federates with Threads, or make a Threads acccount, or host their own Instance and be their own lord of the manor. You choose that here.
This complaint doesn’t work. “Noones treading on you, sweetie.”
They could stay on Lemmy.ml but you said yourself that you’re “tired of people making choices for you”. Im not sure how you thought using someone else’s server works. They own it, they can do what they want. Isn’t that how right leaning Americans want it? The thing about Federation is that even John Q Citizen can spin up their own Instance. Noone is forcing you to use someone else’s Instance and be bound by that Instances rules. Own your Instance server you can make the rules.
Also, your you of “You people” is disingenuous because what makes you think this is my only account, on the only server. There’s nothing saying I can’t have accounts on every public server. Because, as mentioned, I am free to not agree with an admins choices and noone is forcing me to stay on one Instance.
And your last - part you can! Own your own Server Instance and you can Defederate all you want! You cN even launch your own Communities identical to the others to not miss out on content you do want to see.
If an Instance Owner holds a vote and 98% of people say they want to Fedi with Threads, and the owner Defederates anyway, they can do that because they own it. It will make those 98% unhappy, but that’s the price of being on that owners Instance. The owner has execute authority.
So the alternatives are - in order of difficulty and effort/cost 1.Make a Threads account 2.join a Fedi that is still federated with them 3.Make your own.
If the 98% were actually that unhappy and did literally anything other than staying and creating content on that Instance, then it reduces traffic to that Instance. And the owner is left with a ton of sunken cost in hardware for not listening to a 98% vote. That’s how capitalism is supposed to work, right?
You argued for 2 hours just to finally admit you don’t want solutions, you just want to keep being a victim.
And pre-emptively, I’m going to predict you’re going to make some kind of snarky reply about blocking me, like you did the other users. Because you just need the attention announcing it brings.
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We came here to get away from corporations. Its not about censorship. You sound like a corporate shill with that take.
How does defederating protect you from Facebook? Honest question.
Their instance won’t be able to interact with ours. If everyone does it we basically wall them in their own garden. But this time of our making. This honestly won’t stop their content being reposted here.
My impression is that the hope is it will stop them from doing EEE on us
I thought we were here to say f off to one corporation. Can I still use the local grocery store??
Idk he sounds pretty reasonable to me and is specifically not lumping everyone into the same group as you are. Not everyone shares your opinion. Not everyone cares enough. I think the individual should be able to decide for themselves, and the ability to block an instance yourself is something desperately needed over this kind of wanton shutting out of things only some people are against.
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Lemmy is not a place for the type of people that end needlessly rude sentences with LOL. Everyone hates the LOL at end
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Users are making decisions for themselves.
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You know you can choose another instance, or, Ya know, make a threads account.
Personally I don’t want any sponsored posts here.
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You’re free to decide to move to another instance… Simple👍🏼
And free to not move from lemmy.world if they don’t block Facebook
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They can always make an account that federates with Threads, or make a Threads acccount, or host their own Instance and be their own lord of the manor. You choose that here.
This complaint doesn’t work. “Noones treading on you, sweetie.”
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They could stay on Lemmy.ml but you said yourself that you’re “tired of people making choices for you”. Im not sure how you thought using someone else’s server works. They own it, they can do what they want. Isn’t that how right leaning Americans want it? The thing about Federation is that even John Q Citizen can spin up their own Instance. Noone is forcing you to use someone else’s Instance and be bound by that Instances rules. Own your Instance server you can make the rules.
Also, your you of “You people” is disingenuous because what makes you think this is my only account, on the only server. There’s nothing saying I can’t have accounts on every public server. Because, as mentioned, I am free to not agree with an admins choices and noone is forcing me to stay on one Instance.
And your last - part you can! Own your own Server Instance and you can Defederate all you want! You cN even launch your own Communities identical to the others to not miss out on content you do want to see.
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If an Instance Owner holds a vote and 98% of people say they want to Fedi with Threads, and the owner Defederates anyway, they can do that because they own it. It will make those 98% unhappy, but that’s the price of being on that owners Instance. The owner has execute authority.
So the alternatives are - in order of difficulty and effort/cost 1.Make a Threads account 2.join a Fedi that is still federated with them 3.Make your own.
If the 98% were actually that unhappy and did literally anything other than staying and creating content on that Instance, then it reduces traffic to that Instance. And the owner is left with a ton of sunken cost in hardware for not listening to a 98% vote. That’s how capitalism is supposed to work, right?
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You argued for 2 hours just to finally admit you don’t want solutions, you just want to keep being a victim.
And pre-emptively, I’m going to predict you’re going to make some kind of snarky reply about blocking me, like you did the other users. Because you just need the attention announcing it brings.
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