• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I’m asking you to prove that it’s a conservative only policy to not have an open border and that progressive governments open their border to anyone.

    Work on your reading comprehension.

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      2 months ago

      Ok, I’ll entertain your bad faith exactly once.

      Conservatives pretend that anything to the left of their shitty racist border policies is “open borders,” which is a bullshit mischaracterization. You’re demanding that I defend a strawman that you have constructed.

      Now move the goalposts like you did with your garbage about the popular vote.

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        2 months ago

        You didn’t provide an example. From the start I’ve been saying that wanting to keep control on the border isn’t a Republican talking point only, you keep saying it is, prove it, show me an example of a border being opened under a left wing government because you keep saying only Republicans (right wing) care about keeping the border secure.

        Hell, even the European Union has open borders within the Union but they control the border with countries outside of it! All parties in Canada agreed that the irregular crossings that were happening needed to stop and there was an intervention, under a Liberal government that holds to power with the story of the left wing party!

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          2 months ago

          I said once. Keep spewing Republican talking points about the racist Republican policy you’re happy to have adopted.

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            2 months ago

            Still waiting on an example to prove that progressives adopt the opposite policies, take your time, do your research, I don’t mind.

            You’re the one who’s saying that it’s a right wing only policy, the onus of the proof is on you.

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              2 months ago

              Still waiting on an example to prove that progressives adopt the opposite policies

              Sure, just give me an example of any country without any resources that has a space program. I’ll wait. It’s what you’re arguing after all.

              This is the shit you’re doing. You’re LYING about my position and then demanding that I defend a position I neither stated nor hold. And all because you know you’re spouting Republican talking points because you agree with Republicans’ racist motivations for their shitty border policy.

              And just like you adopted Republican talking points for your support of racist Republican border policy, the instant the party throws trans people under the bus and shifts into reverse and drive a couple dozen times in the vain hopes that they will peel off a few fascist votes, you’ll be screaming that there are only two genders.

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                2 months ago

                It’s not the same thing at all. You’re implying that progressives want open borders yet when progressives get in power they don’t open their borders to migrants, they keep applying the same kind of restrictions that Republicans/conservatives want for the same reason they want them. Thus, saying that a country can’t just accept to let in anyone and everyone without keeping some control on the influx isn’t a Republican/conservative opinion, it’s just what countries do no matter who is in power because that’s what must be done.

                No matter how progressive you are, you won’t let just anyone in your house to start living with you and you won’t want people to come in through the window to start living in your attic without you knowing, you’ll want them to come in through the door so you can meet them and make sure it’s someone you want to become your roommate.

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                  2 months ago

                  You’re implying that progressives want open borders

                  I am not. That’s a strawman you’ve constructed.

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                    2 months ago

                    Ok so they don’t want open borders and then saying border control is necessary isn’t a conservative opinion.