• Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
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    For any Trump voters reading this, I challenge you to go back and find any coherent points of actual operational improvement these people talked about. Hopes and dreams don’t count. Solid steps to some sort of better life was never once mentioned from any of these people.

    same with the Democrats none of the two parties have any plan to improve anything except the lives of the elites

    we are worse off this election than last

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      Is this a shit post? Are you kidding me?

      One party wants to tear down our democracy via Project 2025, imprison political rivals, remove voting rights, remove women’s right to choose and give big buisness more tax cuts.

      The other wants to restore women’s rights, term limits, hold the Supreme Court responsible to it’s “ethics” codes, student loan relief, ggun control and restore voting rights.

      The second party isn’t perfect but to brush them off is dangerously stupid.

      You can just fuck right off

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      Dems are corporatists but they at least try to make people’s lives better. Conservatives actively make people’s lives worse on the behalf of their masters.

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      Income inequality a trillion dollars on climate change stronger NLRB working class wages outpacing inflation, idk, what the fuck have YOU done to improve anything; definitely quite a lot less than that

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        our minimum wage is $7.25 not outpacing shit and since the pandemic places like walmart have dropped the start pay to $13 or lower

        Biden has been a career politician for fifty years and Harris might be younger but she spent her time as career politician in the justice system using things like Biden’s crime bills

        what have I done? after politicians like Biden took my vote away sit back and wait for the world to change

        looks like going to waiting a while longer

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          Sure! I’d be happy to.

          • Biden took the biggest action on climate change in US history; the goal of the climate bill is to put us on track for a 40% reduction in US emissions by 2030. It’s way too late but that’s clearly not Biden’s fault since he started fighting for it basically as soon as he got into office, and managed to achieve passed legislation which is several standard deviations above the norm for “let’s ignore it until we’re underwater and on fire” US politician status quo.
          • Biden ordered the forgiveness of half a trillion dollars in student debt, about a third of the current total balance, and the Supreme Court told him no. He’s still managed to forgive ~$150 billion worth of it even against stiff Republican “no we need that money to give to Wall Street criminals pls” resistance.
          • Biden introduced a bill to legalize marijuana federally, which the Republicans killed in the senate.
          • Biden achieved the lowest unemployment in 20 years after having been handed an economy that was still digging out from the apocalypse that was 2020.
          • Wages at the bottom end of the economy have actually been growing, outpacing inflation, every single year that he’s been president. The top 10% of wage earners actually have lost some ground, it’s true – that probably makes “wages are growing” not feel true to most Lemmy users, because for tech workers, they’re shrinking. But the majority of US wage earners have been making more and more year by year. $15/hr is the new unofficial minimum wage in a lot of sectors. That’s not enough, but it’s sure as shit better than when he came in and unemployment was 6% and a lot of people and businesses were still dependent on Covid-aid stimulus payments.

          Oh, and he also raised the minimum wage for federal workers to $15/hr. That doesn’t really do anything; the act of congress which is needed to create a national minimum wage got stalled because of Republicans; he was limited to only economic policy things which raised the income level for working class people, not an official cap at the bottom end, which would also be a good idea yes.

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            Biden has paragraphs of accomplishments sure give you that

            but nothing he does trickles down all the way down just stops at high middle class if that

            biggest action on climate change? a national forest is being razed to train cops to suppress citizens right under his nose. has he at least been down there to assess the situation? did he mention it at the debate?

            Biden’s stance on cannabis is the same as nicotine vaping - regulate the hell out of it until only major corporate options and sus products are able to get to consumers

            he chose a prosecutor for a vice and has a history of crime bills

            what does it matter if the unemployment is low if people’s jobs do not cover food and housing?

            in the two places I stay the pay is below $15 an hour more times than not all the while a single bedroom apartment is over $1000

            vehicle costs are astronomical between the taxes, maintenance, and insurance

            people are on the edge of the cliff in this country but Biden has kept us afloat? his political career on top of Trump’s donations to both parties over the years and his presidency have screwed this country

            did you forget Obama and Biden’s change and hope? was over 15 years ago and where are we now? backtracked more than we have gained and yes Trump did a lot of damage but he is not the sole perpetrator

            but hey let all support the blue or red team because no other options exist and supporting the other options that in reality do exist is called throwing your vote away

            the third parties will never win because the people allowed to vote in this country let themselves believe the two party lie

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          I’ve debunked a certain amount of partisan bullshit on Lemmy

          It’s not a trillion dollars but it also seems worthwhile to some extent

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            Personally?

            Fed the hungry using my own food and kitchen, given money and food to the homeless, and taken my neighbor to the food pantry, that’s just lately though.

            You?

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      You’re 100% wrong. ONE side is saying “Hey, we want things fixed as much as you, so don’t vote for these psychos because we’ve been trying but are deadlocked”.

      Don’t know if I need to whisper in your ear, but the GOP/MAGA folks aren’t saying that. DFW you even talking about?