• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    5 months ago

    Sorry… you’re comparing what Israel is doing right now to what allies did to a city in the country that was itself perpetrating the genocide? A country that was also itself invading Allied nations?

    Is this opposite day or something?

    • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Nop. I’m contesting your logic. Not comparing the countries. We are examining whether your logic holds up to scrutiny.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        5 months ago

        I don’t even know what you think my logic is beyond “the more innocent people you kill, the less morally justified your position becomes.”

        Can you give an example of when that is not the case? Because I don’t know too many people who think that the bombing of Dresden was morally justified.

        • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          5 months ago

          Ok, so if Hamas kills more people that automatically makes Israel’s actions justified?

            • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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              5 months ago

              Is there any war-ever in history- that didn’t involve civilian casualties? Any?

                • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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                  5 months ago

                  In war, you are allowed to kill innocents if necessary to achieve a valid military objective.

                  In this war, the IDF’s objective is to destroy Hamas.

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                    5 months ago

                    “Allowed” by whom? “Necessary” by whose metric?

                    If their objective is to destroy Hamas and they determine that the only way to do that is wipe out the Palestinian people from the face of the Earth, you’re saying that’s justified because it’s their necessary military objective?

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                    You’re not allowed to target civilians at all.

                    You can target military objectives like certain infrastructure to disable it, but you’re not allowed to target civilians. The rules of war just says when civilian casualties aren’t punishable. You have to take measures to ensure attacks are as precise as you can make them and with as little collateral damage as possible.

                    “eliminate every human because they might be an enemy” is not a valid military objective.

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                    5 months ago

                    Yet everyone except Israelites can see that it is a cover up excuse to exterminate the people who they have been trying to get rid off for more than half a century

            • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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              5 months ago

              Engage with the argument please. If you don’t know what the argument is, feel free to ask for clarification.

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                5 months ago

                Seems like you need to learn reading comprehension if you can’t understand the relevance of an article about proportions in a discussions about proportionality