• mlg@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Yeah just like how Pakistan has a democratically elected government that also represents the will of the Pakistani people lol.

    But I mean fair enough, it’s not like they have open political corruption.

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      1 day ago

      That’s a wild comparison. Taiwan is ranked 12th in the world on the latest Economist Democracy Index (US is 28th and rated a “flawed democracy”, Pakistan is 125th and China 145th, both rated “authoritarian regime”)

      Taiwan is ranked 24th in the Corruption Perception Index (US is 28th, China is 76th and Pakistan 136th)

      Taiwan ranks 19th by the Human Development Index - below US which is 17th, but significantly above China at 78th and Pakistan at 168th.

      After transitioning to democracy in 1990, Taiwan has been one of the most successful countries in the world by almost any metric you can think of - it has less poverty than China, less income inequality, higher literacy, far more freedoms, better social safety net, better healthcare system, higher life expectancy, higher gender equality, higher per capita GDP … you name it.

      According to 2025 polls, only 1.1% of Taiwanese want unification with the PRC. 6.1% support eventual unification with China, but not with the current PRC government. Ironically, these numbers were slowly trending up and reached a high of 3.1% and 12.8% respectively in 2018 - however the crackdown on the democracy movement in Hong Kong in 2019 cut any support for unification with China to half.

      There is nothing PRC takeover can offer the Taiwanese - PRC has no carrots, only sticks. And one thing is for damn sure, the PRC government cares about or represents the will of Taiwanese people far less than the Taiwanese government. China promised democracy and universal suffrage to Hong Kong in the 80s, but never delivered after the handover. Xi wants Taiwan for nationalist pride and to rebuild the Qing empire - he doesn’t care about Taiwanese people, he just wants them to be his imperial subjects.

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        19 hours ago

        Oh yeah by all means, Taiwan is an excellent example of a great system.

        I was just joking that regardless of the underlying democratic system, the US has leverage and interest in Taiwan (and plenty of other countries).

        I highly doubt OP’s claim that the US would “sell” Taiwan, but I am concerned that the US is trying to coaxe a conflict with China in which they would throw Taiwan under the bus rather than commiting to a proper war, which would only wreck Taiwan even if they do succeed in defending China.