If Washington’s participation in Israel’s June 2025 war with Iran elevated U.S. military force to a perfectly viable instrument of the United States’ Iran policy, the success of current talks would signal the formal undoing of that logic. But should the failure of talks pave the way for another full-scale war, the United States and Israel will be fighting an Iran vastly different from June. For the Iran of today appears to have made its peace with the grim conclusion that while a decisive slog with Israel and the United States is sure to be agonizing, it is preferable to the recurring attrition of repeated wars and a chronic strategic vulnerability that only emboldens adversaries to target Iran and its regional allies.
Both!!! The subject we are speaking of is inherently contradictory.
Why are we talking about Putin. There’s a gap in the Epstein Files missing around the 9/11 Twin Tower incident. It’s Israel. It’s Bibi. Netanyahu is Trumps daddy.
You call it contradictory. I call it over determination. Everything the US government is doing it would do even if Trump wasn’t acting at the direction of Putin. We’ve seen proxy wars before. We’ve seen how the US manages them. Ukraine is entirely explainable through the calculus of historical US proxy wars, and particularly proxy wars with Russia/USSR. The conflict with Iran is explain able without an appeal to Russian conspiracy.
This is over determination at it’s most essential. It becomes contradictory and irrational when you add in the puppet conspiracy. Without that conspiracy, it’s all explainable with what we know about the US bureaucracy, military strategy, and geopolitical conditions.
Did you miss the part about US helping Putin into power and keeping him there!?
I think with so many puzzle pieces missing you may just be grasping at straws.
I do agree with your general premise though.
The US also helped put Saddam Hussein in power and look what they did? This is just more confirmation bias and selective reading of history. Yes, GWB said he looked into the eyes of Putin and saw in his soul that he was a good man. But Cheney is an anti-Trumper. So which is it? Trump is a personal puppet of Putin? The entire Republican party is individually or collectively controlled by Putin? Or the US (and its European a forebears) have always seen Russia as a prize to be conquered and ending communism was not enough for the US to change positions on that?
If Russia is a long standing enemy, everything the US is doing is consistent with that thesis without needing to also establish that some significant portion of effective leadership is actually working for Putin. The waffling with the Ukrainian weapon support is classic North Atlantic proxy war behavior and does not require an entire 5th Column of Russian actors to explain.
Yeah, I see the problem. You are failing to separate propaganda from facts, but maybe you are just commenting that no one else can seem to do this either. If it is the later I agree. If it is the former you need to stop taking anything at face value.
Russia is not an enemy, nor is China. These military conflicts are just a way for the Industrial Military Complexes of the world to use up expiring ordinance and have a reason to make more.
That is my two cents at least. Cheers!
You need to read history. Russia has been a target of Europe for a very long time. They want the natural resources under their control. Napoleon invaded Russia in an attempt to dominate it and control who it could trade with. The US and the Allies invaded Russia in 1918 to stop the communists from taking over. Hitler invaded Russia intending to enslave everyone and control all their resources. And Western Europe was pretty bullish on that idea. Many American business leaders supported Hitler, as did many English political leaders and business leaders.
When Russia was dismantled, Bill Clinton held NATO meetings with Yeltsin and Yeltsin made it clear that, following years of rapprochement with the USA, Russia would be a good capitalist ally. Clinton instead chose to expand NATO, a transnational nuclear military with no democratic accountability that was designed specifically to counter Russian military capabilities and staffed by Nazi officers specifically because they were trained on anti-Russian strategies and tactics. That choice demonstrated a US and European consensus to continue having a violently oppositional posture towards Russia and indeed enhance that posture over time. Putin continued to enrich Yeltsin’s position of economic and military cooperation with the West, thinking that the expansion of NATO was just precautionary and eventually the West would accept Russia into the club. But after multiple failures of repeated attempts to integrate their Russian security framework with the West’s, it became abundantly clear that the West would never accept anything less than total Russian subjugation.
Oh I missed the .ml my apologies.
Yes, it was the former. There is so much propaganda here I don’t even know where to begin.
Go for it. Pick a single thing that you think is false or spun in a way that leads to incorrect conclusions.
Sure, Billy the molestor Clinton championed Eastern block nations joining Nato, but it wasn’t ever his decision as it required buy in from Eastern block countries to agree to as well as Nato members (a real sore spot for nationalist Russian assholes)
The expansion of NATO is the propaganda (along with stopping “nazification”) that Putin the mass murderer used to justify invading Ukraine costing well over a million casualties now. This is particularly distasteful because of how close Ukraine was with Russia. They were brothers and sisters forced to kill each other by murderous fascist pigs.
That is the problem with .ml squatters, they will tell you that China’s fascism tastes better than US fascism with a straight face. It is okay when their team kills millions of people. It makes me sick.
Also, the US and Russia ended up being great trading partners increasing trade dramatically every year until 2008. Propaganda always has a little truth sprinkled in and a lot of big lies.