Shalom Shitrit - an IDF soldier who was on duty on 7 October 2023 - has made a damning testimony to the Knesset
  • floofloof@lemmy.caOPEnglish
    125·
    1 day ago

    Yes, even more distressing than Israel perpetrating a genocide is that almost the entire population is enthusiastic about it.

    • ynthrepic@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1010·
      1 day ago

      That’s actually not true, at least not anymore.

      Anyway, if we’re not blaming Palestinians for electing Hamas, we shouldn’t be blaming Jews for electing Netanyahu.

      Political propaganda is real problem for everyone, and those who know better need to be morally consistent role models for the rest, or we’re doomed to repeat history over and over.

        • ynthrepic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          14 hours ago

          “Troubled” is a weird way of wording the question. It’s not the same as “support” per se, but it’s bad enough I concede your point. I’m probably getting a biased perspective from more progressive Israelis.

      • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        1 day ago

        If palestinians has better options they would get it how csn you organize elections when you sre occupied to? Isrsel is a drmocracy by name they have elections with ton of options yet they voted for him 6 godamn times because they love prime minister hostile to palestinians that would prevent a palestinians state

        • ynthrepic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          14 hours ago

          I agree, but political propaganda is what it is.

          I wouldn’t be surprised if most Israeli voters are deeply misinformed about what is really happening, and most people don’t care to question what they know, since most people are just trying to get through the day and live their best lives.

          Blame has to go to those in power. Blaming people for voting wrong doesn’t achieve anything.

          • mrdown@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            12 hours ago

            Extremists are played in their tv channels all the time. I simply don’t how it’s imposible for anybody to know the amount of attrocities their is not only in gaza but also in the west bank

            • ynthrepic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              10 hours ago

              I don’t think it’s impossible (sorry, I know that was a typo) and I’m sure a significant minority are aware, and they are the Israelis actually voting on the right side of history.

              But, it’s easier than you think for a huge number of people to be woefully wrong about the people they are voting. The best example of this in the world right now is Donald Trump and his Republican party.

              Trump’s so obviously tyrannical it’s hard to imagine anyone not knowing, and yet around half of those who voted, voted for him. Objectivity there cannot be that many psychopaths in the population, so what explains their belief in him?

              Occam’s razor suggests it has to be ignorance.

              I’ve no doubt the technology, the Internet and social media algorithms in particular, have played their role. Fox news too, and now the Podcastisphere. Media echo chambers are a relatively new phenomenon and it’s taken a little while for bad faith actors (mostly on the right, and in oligharical circles) to twist the narrative in their favour, but here we are.

              There’s every possibility it’s the same for most Israelis in the default case.

              Naturally, in any nation with crippled media, propagandistic control is going to be even worse (like Hamas’s Gaza, Iran, previously occupied Syria, etc.). So it just doesn’t make sense to blame voters is all I’m saying, because they think they’re making the right voting choice in the end.