• triclops6@lemmy.ca
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      10 months ago

      Sure, but the majority of gazans support Hamas

      Both before and after the attacks

      So same conclusion then?

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      10 months ago

      No, because it’s a natural human reaction on danger - they want to eliminate it, everything be damned.

      Not even blaming them, despite them being super wrong with big consequences. All we can do is reach out and try to explain that their army is causing even more suffering some of them just endured, and that not all Palestinians are the kinds of guys who broke into Israel.

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        10 months ago

        The “good people on both sides” argument has historically gone so well, I’m sure it will work wonders here. /s

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          10 months ago

          I know exactly 0 instances when hate and blame game made people reconsider

          It’s just generally hard to change what’s happening and reactions of Israelis, this is deeply influenced by human physchology - all I’m saying.

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        10 months ago

        The danger of people resisting having their houses stolen and their family murdered?

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          10 months ago

          Yes, with some of them coming back and stealing houses and murdering families, too.

          Look, never have I ever argued they are right; what happens in Palestine is a bunch of war crimes and I really hope Netanyahu and company will suffer grave consequences.

          People are super quick to trigger on the subject.

          But human psychology is flawed, especially after traumatizing events; I’m only saying that it’s natural for Israelis to behave this way, even if not right, and when people are fanatically holding some position (because they see the alternative as eventual death, y’know), hatred might not be the solution.

          Right now, as people die, we should focus on what’s effective, not a knee-jerk. That’s why police holds negotiations with terrorists, for example. Because it’s more effective at preserving human lives, not because they sympathize.

          I want this war to end as soon as possible. Do you?

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            10 months ago

            I want the occupation to end, not just this ‘war’. There’s not going to be peace until the last Palestinian is killed, or if Israel decides to unwind the settlement policy from the last decades. As we’ve seen with the IRA and ANC, the way to stop terrorism is by offering a political solution that works for all involved.

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              10 months ago

              I mean, first we stop bloodshed, second we start negotiations and high-level diplomacy.

              War is currently the highest priority, and then come all the issues around apartheid and Israel’s actions in peace time