cross-posted from: https://hcommons.social/users/adachika192/statuses/114611927184686873

Pro-Israel Figures Threaten to Kill Greta Thunberg Over Gaza Aid Mission - Quds News Network (2025-06-02)

https://qudsnen.co/pro-israel-figures-threaten-to-kill-greta-thunberg-over-gaza-aid-mission/
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>> … Greta Thunberg is facing a wave of violent threats by pro-genocide individuals after joining a Gaza-bound aid flotilla. Pro-Israel figures have called for her death or harm as she sails to challenge Israel’s siege on the devastated territory.

>> Republican Senator Lindsey Graham posted on X: “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”…

#StopIsrael #StopGenocide #FreedomFlotilla
@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe

  • rumimevlevi@lemmings.world
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    You can phrase it how you want, but at the end of the day they are smuggling goods in an area internationally recognized as being under the control and jurisdiction of a country. Part of nonviolent civil disobedience is that you are breaking the law. I don’t think it’s good that activists get hurt, but it’s definitely not surprising.

    The occupation is illegal stop justifying the unjustifiable , there is a difference between occupied land and internationally recognized land administrated by a country. I don’t want to hear about it being surprising or not. I want to know if you think the death of the 9 activists was respecting international law

    This document expose all Israeli lies and you covering from them . You ain’t fooling anybody pretending to be unbiased https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/mde150132011en.pdf

    the event organizers had alleged ties to Hamas Everybody is Hamas according to Israel

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      You made a lot of statements and a lot of questions at once, so I’ll try to split them up.

      The occupation is illegal

      Agreed

      stop justifying the unjustifiable

      Disagree?

      there is a difference between occupied land and internationally recognized land administrated by a country

      Agreed, the coastal waters off the coast of Israel are different than the dry land in Gaza

      I don’t want to hear about it being surprising or not

      I’m sorry?

      I want to know if you think the death of the 9 activists was respecting international law

      Yes, people were smuggling goods through the internationally recognized waters administered by Israel. When the IDF boarded the ship to stop the smuggling they were attacked by a group of the passengers. While unfortunate, it was legal to defend themselves. I will say that the IDF should have done more to prevent the escalation to the point that people didn’t get killed, but that would likely have required an even larger show of force.

      This document expose all Israeli lies and you covering from them

      This is an article by Amnesty International? I’ll take the UN Panel’s report which stated ““The fundamental principle of the freedom of navigation on the high seas is subject to only certain limited exceptions under international law. Israel faces a real threat to its security from militant groups in Gaza. The naval blockade was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law.””

      Everybody is Hamas according to Israel

      Not really a good answer. Interestingly the Palmer report does say specifically where in the Israeli report they document the connection to Hamas, but for the life of me I cannot find the actual report. If anyone finds it I’d be curious to read it.

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        Yes, people were smuggling goods through the internationally recognized waters administered by Israel. When the IDF boarded the ship to stop the smuggling they were attacked by a group of the passengers. While unfortunate, it was legal to defend themselves. I will say that the IDF should have done more to prevent the escalation to the point that people didn’t get killed, but that would likely have required an even larger show of force.

        Justifying murder very cool. The law say to only use enough force necessary. Murdering with live ammunition is not

        The loss of life and injuries resulting from the use of force by Israeli forces
        during the take-over of the Mavi Marmara was unacceptable. Nine passengers were
        killed and many others seriously wounded by Israeli forces. No satisfactory
        explanation has been provided to the Panel by Israel for any of the nine deaths.
        Forensic evidence showing that most of the deceased were shot multiple times,
        including in the back, or at close range has not been adequately accounted for in the
        material presented by Israel.

        https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/720841?ln=en&v=pdf

        https://news.un.org/en/story/2010/09/352342

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          It’s interesting you used that quote because I also used it in another response. The difference is that you failed to note that the report activists took the weapons of the IDF and shot 2 of the soldiers and 7 other soldiers were injured. In case you want to read it yourself, that would be item 124 on page 57.

          Interestingly I have found this report by the Meir Amit Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center which includes very detailed accounts of the attack including photos and soldier statements. I’m not going to reference or use anything from here because I assume most people will disregard it because it comes from an Israeli source. Either way, you should still check it out.

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            You failed to note that it was unacceptable for the idf to murder activists you can stop someone with one bullet, but decided shot pwople multiple time

            Wow you are also using meir amit an israeli organization funded by israel terrorist government. You are exposing yourself here

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              Wow you are also using meir amit an israeli organization funded by israel terrorist government. You are exposing yourself here

              I’m not going to reference or use anything from here because I assume most people will disregard it because it comes from an Israeli source

              You really are a caricature aren’t you?

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                  So because it is funded by the Israeli government it can’t be used? Did you actually look at the report? It includes pictures of the “activists” beating the soldiers as the rappel onto the ship, photos from Turkish Journalist Sefik Dinç, youtube videos uploaded by the “activists”, and pictures from the “activists” of the soldiers bleeding from their heads while the “activists” smile and hold them in place.

                  I mean, I’m all for calling out propaganda and looking at where information is coming from (that’s like 90% of what I do here), but when one side has pictures and videos that the other side provided I’m a bit inclined to believe them. I put a lot of skepticism in the interviews included in the report, but when the IDF says they were attacked by the “activists”, they provide pictures and videos taken by the “activists” attacking the soldiers, the Turkish government says that the “activists” attacked the soldiers, and the UN Panel that investigated it says that the “activists” attacked the soldiers… I don’t know, maybe it’s true and not just IDF propaganda?

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                    So because it is funded by the Israeli government it can’t be used

                    Yes, no army and government ever lied more than the idf and israeli governments

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              No I didn’t? Why would I need to note it again when you literally just said it and then I said I had used the same quote? That is by definition noting it.