And in the end, it isn’t up to them. Trump won the popular vote. Not by much, but he’s in the White House legally and legitimately. Doesn’t matter what his ‘popularity ratings’ are now. We The People put him there, and We The People are the ones responsible for removing him.
Do you really want the military to decide ‘I know the majority of y’all voted for this, but we’ve decided we don’t like that, so we’re overthrowing the government’ for anything?
Fair disclosure: Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m honestly very appreciative of your counterpoints here. And I agree! A militocracy ain’t good news, either.
And you’re right: Taking him out over “unpopular policy” doesn’t make logical sense under a reasonable society.
I’m also aware that our civil checks and balances that should be putting the brakes on stupid policies are falling apart, because they’ve been carefully staffed by zealots heavily in favor of a single-minded, monolithic ideology.
However, I’m honestly wondering where the line is, that a leader’s blatantly criminal activity can officially brand them “unfit for office” and bear consequences.
Like if he actually tried to just kill someone for no reason in Times Square, as he boasted he could, could anybody stop him? Or is it just “rules for thee, not for me” and we actually have a king now?
Because you know if “We The People” stepped in to stop that, we’d all get gulag’d.
If he decides “lol yeah let’s annex Canada.”
Can our forces deny such a stupid order? Even though he is, technically, “their boss”?
Impeachment historically seems like a “strong suggestion” more than a solution.
The presidents impeached by the House were:
Andrew Johnson in 1868
William Jefferson (Bill) Clinton in 1998
Donald John Trump in 2019 and 2021
Presidents Johnson, Clinton, and Trump remained in office following acquittals by the Senate on all charges.
It sounds like The People can’t really do much but demand that their officials follow through, but even then, it sounds like justice is never actually carried out.
It’s honestly terrifying to think about, and I wish we knew what to do that was actually effective to reverse course on this absolute insanity.
The line is usually ‘where the majority party in Congress thinks it is’. That’s why even though they got impeached, none of those presidents left; look at which party was in charge at the time.
Make no mistake; the Republicans could have him out on his ass and facing criminal charges before you could blink if they wanted to. They don’t want to, because he’s doing exactly what they want him to do. 40-odd percent of Americans also think this is great.
And so, yes, he could shoot someone in Times Square and totally get away with it.
That’s the real problem. Trump and fascism are symptoms, not the cause. If the disease wasn’t there, like it wasn’t with Nixon (or at least, it was just starting to develop then), none of this would be an issue.
Because that’s not how the military works.
And in the end, it isn’t up to them. Trump won the popular vote. Not by much, but he’s in the White House legally and legitimately. Doesn’t matter what his ‘popularity ratings’ are now. We The People put him there, and We The People are the ones responsible for removing him.
Do you really want the military to decide ‘I know the majority of y’all voted for this, but we’ve decided we don’t like that, so we’re overthrowing the government’ for anything?
Fair disclosure: Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m honestly very appreciative of your counterpoints here. And I agree! A militocracy ain’t good news, either.
And you’re right: Taking him out over “unpopular policy” doesn’t make logical sense under a reasonable society.
I’m also aware that our civil checks and balances that should be putting the brakes on stupid policies are falling apart, because they’ve been carefully staffed by zealots heavily in favor of a single-minded, monolithic ideology.
However, I’m honestly wondering where the line is, that a leader’s blatantly criminal activity can officially brand them “unfit for office” and bear consequences.
Like if he actually tried to just kill someone for no reason in Times Square, as he boasted he could, could anybody stop him? Or is it just “rules for thee, not for me” and we actually have a king now?
Because you know if “We The People” stepped in to stop that, we’d all get gulag’d.
If he decides “lol yeah let’s annex Canada.” Can our forces deny such a stupid order? Even though he is, technically, “their boss”?
Impeachment historically seems like a “strong suggestion” more than a solution.
According to USA.gov:
It sounds like The People can’t really do much but demand that their officials follow through, but even then, it sounds like justice is never actually carried out.
It’s honestly terrifying to think about, and I wish we knew what to do that was actually effective to reverse course on this absolute insanity.
The line is usually ‘where the majority party in Congress thinks it is’. That’s why even though they got impeached, none of those presidents left; look at which party was in charge at the time.
Make no mistake; the Republicans could have him out on his ass and facing criminal charges before you could blink if they wanted to. They don’t want to, because he’s doing exactly what they want him to do. 40-odd percent of Americans also think this is great.
And so, yes, he could shoot someone in Times Square and totally get away with it.
That’s the real problem. Trump and fascism are symptoms, not the cause. If the disease wasn’t there, like it wasn’t with Nixon (or at least, it was just starting to develop then), none of this would be an issue.