Qualcomm brings receipts: Snapdragon X Elite gets benchmarked, completely dunks on Apple’s M2 processor::Qualcomm made big claims with its Snapdragon X Elite platform and Oryon CPU, but the company proved it to the press last week with a special benchmarking session where we could witness just how powerf

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    Not like I’m a Qualcomm fan, but this sounds great. If Linux support is good (and I’m guessing it’ll be), my next laptop may be Qualcomm inside.

    I’m specially interested in seeing if these laptops will be able to have Coreboot, that would be fantastic.

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      Also important, will it be available and affordable. I don’t much care about arm laptops if they cost an arm (heh) and a leg to buy and then a couple fingers to import into the mythical and exotic land of not-US.

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                I bet it will be fine with arm fairly quickly now that these chips are on the horizon.

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                  I doubt it. Many windows applications still are 32 bit only today. Visual studio only got 64 bit support in 2022. Windows has a long history of backwards compatibility and I would expect to be depending on software compatibility layers for a decade or more, even for some Microsoft products.

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                  Being able to run benchmarks doesn’t make it is a great experience to use unfortunately. 3/4 of applications don’t run or have bugs that the devs don’t want to fix.

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              Most things are fine on arm these days

              MacOS? Yes. Linux? Sure. Android? Obviously. Windows? Not a chance!

              And seeing this is designed for laptops, your options will be either Linux or Windows. The comment is on point.

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                  Oh don’t get me wrong, it definitely runs!

                  But have you tried using it as a daily driver? Most things will break. I discovered this the hard way by installing it in a Raspberry Pi

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                Caveat for all platforms running wine applications. So Linux is fine, except when running windows applications.

                Well, mostly, there do exist binary only Linux applications too. Business applications and also some games with native Linux support.

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            I’d imagine most open source software will just be perfectly fine on ARM on Linux… but I do wonder a little bit about the occasional x86 binary blob we run. They’re generally pretty rare in Linux land… but Steam games are probably not going to have a great time. I’ve used binfmt_misc to run ARM binaries on x86 transparently before using qemu, and it works perfectly fine… but it’s dog slow.

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              If anything Steam’s support for something else other than i386 is long overdue.

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              Most people use Linux, just not desktop. If people are okay with Android, they’d be okay with Gnome as well.

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                If they sell snapdragon laptops with Linux preinstalled people would buy, sadly they’re more likely to include Windows (which has bad support).

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                I was specifically referring to desktop Linux, most people wouldn’t be interested in a laptop running android.

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                  Yet Chromebooks have been a major element for the past 5 years, with more units sold than Apple. I know it’s not technically GNU/Linux. But there’s still a Linux core underneath required to run Chrome OS.

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      The answer is in the article…

      It is worth noting that by the time Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Elite hits store shelves, Apple’s M3 line of CPUs (which are expected to be announced this week) and Intel’s next-gen Meteor Lake laptops processors with its beefy NPU and GPU, will be the new competition.

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          That really depends on the TDP of the Intel and AMD chips. Both have been progressively pumping more and more juice into their silicon lately in an attempt to be the “fastest”.

          If Qualcomm is within spitting distance at a much lower TDP then this might actually be the beginning of the end for x86.

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      Apple just announced its M3 line of processors, and they’re shipping next week.

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      By what apple revealed on the m3, it looks like it’s still going to lose out on cpu, ai, and tdp. Might come close on graphics performance but overall it won’t be good enough.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Qualcomm caused quite a stir last week with its long-awaited announcement of its Snapdragon X Elite platform based on its new Oryon CPU, creating what some are calling the “Apple Mac Moment” for Windows.

    During Qualcomm’s keynote, the company went on stage with some fancy graphs and a few handpicked benchmarks, putting it up against Intel’s best 13th-generation Core laptop CPUs and Apple’s M2 (and even M2 Max in one scenario).

    More importantly, when we turned around, there were well over 20 Oryon-powered laptops with Geekbench 6, Cinebench 24, PCMark 10, Procyon AI, and 3Dmark WildLife Extreme and Aztec Ruins (pre-commercial builds).

    But, similar to Apple, that platform can range from low TDP (thermal design power; basically, how much wattage the chip draws) to very high, with or without fans.

    Each time you run a benchmark, the score fluctuates depending on external and internal thermal conditions or any Windows background processes that may temporarily be active.

    It is worth noting that by the time Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Elite hits store shelves, Apple’s M3 line of CPUs (which are expected to be announced this week) and Intel’s next-gen Meteor Lake laptops processors with its beefy NPU and GPU, will be the new competition.


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      on PCMark’s webpage the fastest mobile cpu is R9 7945HX with 14k marks. How did they manage to score only 9k in the article?

      Passmark already has the latest threadrippers scored, topping the charts at 156k points. As a comparison the 7950X is at 63k points, 7945HX at 56k points, apple m2 ultra 24 core 49k points. So as long as you have the watts to spare x86 will be more powerful?

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      Nah, if Intel gets their shit together and moves to 2-3nm finally everyone else will start crying. Yes, Intel lags behind everyone today, but they lag just a bit, all while using an extremely outdated tech process.

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    The article shows a low- and high-powered version of the qualcomm chips - will users of these chips be able to change the power profile of these chips themselves, or will they be locked in before they are sold?