Why are distro communities turning linux more and more into Windows and Mac OS clones?
This is why I use Arch.
I’m usually a defender of opt-out telemetry in Linux, what with it usually being a trivial step in the installer, the telemetry not being invasive, the telemetry being private and not being able to identify people, it being used to actually benefit Linux rather than make money, and because opt-in telemetry is useless.
That said, holy shit this telemetry collects stuff it really should not be collecting. This is not what Linux telemetry should be. Doubly so from a distro with a troubled past in terms of management and security. This is a red flag.
Oh boy looks like my weekend will be spend learning and trying to install Arch without a graphical installer. To be fair Manjaro on my laptop was my first try at Arch. I never thought how much I will come to like AUR.
EndevaourOS is already on my gaming rig so plain Arch for my laptop seems like a good challenge. Farewell Manjaro, I learned a lot
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archinstallscript is officially supported and very straightforward. like, almost Calamares-but-in-TUI straightforward.It’s not that hard, just read the install guides and instructions. My first Arch install was like 8y ago and I expected it to be difficult - it wasn’t.
Friends don’t let friends use Manjaro
Use EndeavourOS or another Arch derivative instead.
Or just plain arch. Installing it with archinstall isn’t that hard
Oh, you can vote whether it should be opt-in or opt-out.
Oh, voting requires “Trust level 1”.Anyway, I may stop donating to Manjaro due to this. Now I just go with Arch anyway.
archinstalleven makes it quick to setup a VM.I had a forum account from long ago that I barely use and even I was able to vote … so if you had an account there, give it a try and vote!
The only thing archinstall script misses for me is option for flatpak setup from the get go
Oh, voting requires “Trust level 1”.
I’ve found that some people use Linux just to be apart of the “cool tech kids” on the internet. They don’t understand how to use a CLI, what kernel level access is, what a kernel is, or even how Linux actually works as opposed to Windows/Mac.
I think Manjaro was made for them. It’s like the MLM version of a Linux distro.
This is a “cool tech kid” opinion. Linux is for EVERYONE. Let’s not gatekeep it. Having GUI tools and stuff that is so easy to use that tech-illiterate people can use Linux is a great thing.
Are you trying to gatekeep Linux to only power users that use a CLI, are way above the average in computer literacy, and happen to know the nuances between Linux and other operating systems?
This is the kind of thinking that will prevent adoption to the masses. Linux doesn’t have to be stupid hard to use. There are specific distros like vanilla Arch for advanced users to tinker with and options like Manjaro and Ubuntu that are ideally functional out of the box for those that just want something to work.
What Manjaro is doing here is dumb AF, and should rightfully be heavily criticized, but you statement feels like your saying you should have to be a computer expert to use any Linux distro, and that’s dumb.
I’ve found that some people use Linux just to be apart of the “cool tech kids” on the internet. They don’t understand how to use a CLI…
I hope that’s true. If Linux has come this far to make PC life possible for the cool kids, I say welcome to each and every one of them.
I mean, when I started using Linux I also tried to avoid the CLI, and I was successful at that with Mint for quite a while. Actually, updating Mint in GUI is faster. I didn’t find a way to enable parallel downloads for apt like for pacman, but the GUI does just that.
Very much possible nowdays. I haven’t even switched from Windows, I got a first computer, didn’t know the difference between Linux Mint and Windows, but I found Mint easier to use. Windows confused me with separate settings and control panel, and then some guide asking me to do woodoo in scary looking registry editor…
If I were using Manjaro right now, at the first opportunity, I would be switching to something else. Too much enshitification happening everywhere, and people need to start voting with their “wallets” to stop these greedy fucks.
Opt out telemetry is annoying. There’s no guarantee it doesn’t send before I’ve had a chance to disable.
Finally time to update manjarno.snorlax.sh again -_-
That URL doesn’t seem to be working.
I was just getting used to using Manjaro for my dev machines due to rolling release. Gotta find new flavor now.
Consider Endeavour.
Yup saw it recommended in one of the comments as well, I’ll look it up.
