Did he do it for the memes?

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    If those people are fine with Trump being president, then that’s on them. Sitting out instead of voting against Trump is helping Trump win.

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      You can blame them if you want, but the original push is from Biden and the DNC’s failures and support for genocide.

      The point is, Biden is tanking, so swapping him is better. Defending Biden hurts DNC chances.

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        support for genocide

        The same genocide that Trump supports, likely more than Biden?

        If the genocide in Palestine was someone’s single issue, they’d be pretty disappointed if Trump were making decisions about the Palestine…

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          People aren’t voting for Trump, they just won’t for Biden. America isn’t a mandatory voter country, so actively contributing to genocide hurts the DNC’s chances by disengaging voters, not by flipping them to Trump.

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                  True. They could replace Biden with Clinton.

                  The voters lack of control is the main reason we are in this mess. Only 14m people chose Biden in the primary.

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                    I agree with you there.

                    I’m also (obviously) against the genocide.

                    I just think Trump would be worse in every way, including regarding the genocide (and other potential future genocides and/or wars).

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                Yes, if voters who vote Republican or flip between Republican/Democrat decide not to vote for Trump, then that would help Biden win.

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                    Or are they helping both?

                    Actually, I’ve read that voter apathy tends to help Right-wing parties. If that’s true and accurate, then independents who don’t vote for either would be helping Trump.

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                Maybe it’d appeal more to you. But they’ve likely done their research and figured that they’d lose more votes from swapping him out.

                They could be right or wrong, but they’re not making these decisions blindly.

                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                  Maybe it’d appeal more to you. But they’ve likely done their research and figured that they’d lose more votes from swapping him out.

                  Then this is their tactical choice to sacrifice voters that would vote for the DNC if he was swapped out, and the blame lies on the DNC, not the voters.

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                    No, because the voters still have a choice to vote.

                    There’s no guarantee that swapping candidates would get them more net votes.

                    There’s a guarantee that Democrat or flip voters who abstain from voting for Biden are helping Trump win.

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        “Excuse excuse excuse, I feel bad voting for Biden so I won’t”

        Very inspiring. What other emotions do you have trouble dealing with?