An unprecedented nearly 5,000 migrants have died at sea in the first five months of 2024 trying to reach the Spanish Canary Islands, according to a report released by migration rights group Walking Borders on Wednesday.

Between Jan. 1 and May 31, 4,808 people died on the Atlantic voyage to the Canaries after departing from Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal and Gambia, making it the deadliest route between Africa and Spain, with 95% of migrant deaths, according to the group.

Arrivals to the archipelago in that period soared five times to over 16,500 from a year ago, Interior Ministry data showed.

  • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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    6 months ago

    No you didn’t.

    I did read it. That is talking about refugees looking at asylum. You understand the difference right?

    Asylum seekers are covered under international law. That is about legal movements.

    We aren’t talking about that we are talking about people illegally crossing borders. It seems like you are trying to make out one thing is something it isn’t. It seems to me you are trying to make out illegal migrants are refugees. That seems a lot like misinformation to me and you need to provide sources for your claims.

    That’s why I’m asking for a source. Are you saying all illegal migrants are refugees even though I have showed evidence of them just doing it for money?

    You’re misleading people.

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      6 months ago

      You do know that we have no idea whether or not someone is seeking asylum when they’re dead, right?

      Are you saying all illegal migrants are refugees even though I have showed evidence of them just doing it for money?

      No, I’m saying you have no idea what reason they’re coming over for in general, you’re basing your claim on TV and YouTube videos. And I’m saying they wouldn’t risk their lives if they weren’t desperate.

      The funny thing is, you don’t realize that if someone is doing something for money which might kill them, they really need that money. It’s a life or death situation, if not for them then for their families.

      Now, are you ever going to explain the significance of burning a passport?

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        6 months ago

        So all the claims you make are unfounded and not backed up by any evidence or source and go contrary to what I said.

        Your only explanation is a feeling you have.

        Face it if I did that you would have deleted all my comments. I based my comments and sources on reporters from some of the most well regarded news sites. One rule for you, one rule for everyone else. I did everything you asked of me and you done nothing, you’re moving the goalposts for yourself and you won’t do anything to back up your claims. You just want to argue but won’t admit I provided everything to back up my claims are yours are unfounded.

        Fuck man I did. If you have a country that does not have refugees you can burn your passport and lie and say you are from a different a country to gain refugee status. Legally you refugee but actually they are just economic migrants abusing the system and breaking the law.

        This conversation is over until you provide something that’s more than just your feels.

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          6 months ago

          Sorry, I am not going to continue this discussion if you insinuate that is the kind of moderator I am.

          I also highly encourage you to report me to lemmy.world admins if you think I would delete all of your comments for any reason that didn’t violate community rules, because that would be beyond the pale of any moderator.

          After all, I’m sure you have some basis for making such an accusation, right?

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            6 months ago

            Answer my repeated questions for sources (like you asked of me) or this discussion is over.

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              6 months ago

              “After all, I’m sure you have some basis for making such an accusation, right?”

              I guess the answer to this question is that no, you just made it up, presumably for sympathy.

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                6 months ago

                Answer my repeated questions for sources (like you asked of me) or this discussion is over.

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                  6 months ago

                  You are free to end this discussion whenever you like, but your attempt to goad me into doing something like deleting all of your comments is not going to work.

                  Again, if you feel that I am doing such things as a moderator, by all means contact the lemmy.world admin about it because it would be absolutely unacceptable for a moderator to behave that way.

                  I will be very surprised if you actually put your money where your mouth is and don’t reply again.

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                    6 months ago

                    Haha all I want is sources. I know you’re entire life is this website so I know you will go on forever. I don’t expect anything else.

                    Or for you to show some honour and growth and actually admit you are wrong, have no claims and I think I’m owed an apology for how you have treated me.

                    Sources or go bother someone else.