• TangledHyphae@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Probably the fact that they started a war on Oct. 7th that they can’t win, as a starting point for escalation of conflict specifically.

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          7 months ago

          Probably the fact that they started a war on Oct. 7th that they can’t win, as a starting point for escalation of conflict specifically.

          So you are going to just ignore 76 years of history about this situation? Also Palestinians did not attack on 7 October 2023, it was Hamas. Normal Palestinian civilians are innocent. I will once again copy-past what, I said to another Lemmy user because it seems some particular people can’t (or won’t) do research themselves:

          ‘’Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

          Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the horrifying things Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.’’

          If you want to go on the route ‘’who started this war’’; it’d be Israel and Britian who ‘’gave’’ the land to them.

          that they can’t win, as a starting point for escalation of conflict specifically.

          Obvious they cannot ‘win’ because it’s Israel state and the US country (US giving billions to Israel) versus a group of people. Hamas want their land, homes and humans right back.

          The normal Palestinian civilians do not even want to fight at all. All they want is have human rights, be able to be free from occupation, torture. They don’t want to their entire families to be murdered out just because they’re Palestinians. It’s immensely bad what Hamas done on 7 October but it’s also immensely bad what Israel has been doing since 1948 up until 2024 (ongoing). If you push people far enough, they will fight back in the worst way possible and that’s happened.

          Also imagine this; you are in your house with five family members. Suddenly group of 10 strangers force their way into your home, kill all your family members and force you in the bathroom for 10 years. For 10 years they have been living now, you manage to escape, fight back and kill several of these people. Now suddenly you are the aggressor, committed a crime and they (who took your home and killed your family) are the victims. That do be insane if it really happens right?

          Well newsflash, that is truly happening to the Palestinian people.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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      7 months ago

      The other nations don’t want to give Israel an excuse for a displacement genocide, they want the world to see Israel for what it is.

      If they accept the refugees Israel isn’t going to let them go home eventually. If they don’t, Israel either stops or kills everyone.

      This makes your average Palestinians a diplomatic pawn, but that’s rarely a problem to the ruling class no matter their nation.