• PugJesus@lemmy.world
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    “Fortunately, we know many ways we can make the food system more resilient while reducing food emissions. The biggest opportunity in high-income nations is a reduction in meat consumption and exploration of more plants in our diets,” said Dr. Paul Behrens, an associate professor of environmental change at Leiden University in the Netherlands.

    Honestly, most people in the modern West eat more meat than is healthy anyway.

    Turns out hunter-gatherers haven’t evolved to eat meat every meal, three meals a day, all their lives.

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      I’m Latino and I’ve gone vegetarian, and to my father this is completely inconceivable. He’s used to having meat every meal, and is convinced that I’m going to fall ill if I don’t eat meat. I eat so many damn beans anyways that I’m good without it.

      This whole eating meat every day, thing, seems pretty new right? Like industrial revolution forward. Most people in history weren’t expecting meat all the time

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        Only because they couldn’t afford it…lol

        Protein has always been the most desirable and most expensive part of any meal.

        The fact that Americans eat so much meat is a testament to wealth not simply bad eating behavior.

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      That’s because the general population tried to imitate the rich when the standard of living increased, and the rich in general loved to hunt and eat lots of meat.

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      Exactly. You should really be eating a lot of roots, nuts, leaves, and berries then occasionally catch something that can run from you.

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        I’m a vegetarian but my wife calls me an opportunistic meat eater, like a horse. I don’t eat meat, except when it’s Christmas and my mom makes her turkey, or the one time a year I allow myself to have a big Mac.

        I don’t think my system could handle a steak, or pork anymore, it would probably destroy me.

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        Said no one ever before 1900.

        You people are so goddamn spoiled and you have no clue.

        Eating meat is the only way our species has survived and now that we’ve evolved past it you act like it was never even a factor.

        There’s a reason tribes move with animal herds and not due to which berries are in season.

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          Yes yes, fire and meat. That works fine when you’re a roving tribe and humans number in the hundred thousand range. That destroys the planet when you live in houses and there will be 10 billion by the year 2050. But go on.

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      eat more meat than is healthy

      What is considered healthy in your opinion?

      As someone who lost 40kg by just eating mostly meat (one year meat for lunch, salami for dinner), I’d argue it’s healthier than the stuff that’s advertised to be healthy.

      wanna build muscle? well, eating pasta and salad every day won’t get you very far.

      Sure, there are other protein sources, but let’s be honest, nothing is more nutritional, efficient (and delicious) than meat.

      I think we should really focus on the truely unhealthy shit that’s out there in the supermarkets, and not on meat.

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        You should study up on that vegan body builder, though I’m afraid that I don’t recall his name. Remember that when you digest the meat, you are reducing back to its amino acids which your body can put back together into new proteins. The same thing happens when you digest plant matter–you reduce the plant proteins into amino acids which your body then puts back together into its own proteins.

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          While I’m sure it’s possible, the fact that it’s “that vegan body builder” instead of the norm should be a clue on how generally effective it is. Personally I don’t eat a lot of meat, and of the meat I do eat, most is seafood, but I won’t deny that meat is the easiest way to get the nutrients you need. It’s also a lot more filling than carbs.

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              There’s one dude who made a big youtube channel on the topic. Don’t know if he’s still around. His whole shtick was helping obese people get into shape by teaching them his diet and workout routines.

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          Sure, but there’s the thing called PDCAAS, kind of a digestibility index for protein sources. in other words, how much of that protein can the body actually digest, the rest of it just gets pooped out.

          And many plant based sources have a lower score, with a few exceptions.

          Then, there’s the cost factor too, best bang for the buck.

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      Honestly, most people in the modern West eat more meat than is healthy anyway.

      Visit non-India Asia and get back to me. I don’t know how anyone can be vegetarian there just as a general practice.

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          In my experience yes. I can’t describe the joy of the experience of being baked out of your mind buying way too much meat on a stick, going a stand over to get a thing of sticky rice in a bag, then the next stand a bubble tea, and finally devouring it on a random folding chair with a crate as a table.