Fitzgerald’s is a rare case where an official employed by the state’s top law enforcement and legal office has been accused of making and distributing AI CSAM, although some cops have been arrested for the crime. Earlier this year, a Pennsylvania cop was arrested for making AI porn from photos on driver’s licenses, and more recently in Korea, a police officer was arrested for making AI porn, including CSAM, The Korea Times reported.
In New Jersey, the deputy attorney general has been charged with possession of CSAM, dissemination of photos or film of CSAM, and “criminal use of a communication facility,” detectives said.
a rare case where an official employed by the state … CSAM
A rare case?
🤣😭🤮🤣🤣🤣
I suppose it’s rare in that it looks like someone might actually be held accountable.
Yeah, it’s the case that’s rare, not the crime.
Well good. The sentence I quoted from only talks about accusations though. And the blurb seems to contradict itself in the very next sentence, citring several more “rare” examples.
I have nothing against ArsTechnica (yet) so I guess it’s just bad phrasing.
Thanks for sharing.
Fitzgerald’s is a rare case where an official employed by the state’s top law enforcement and legal office has been accused of making and distributing AI CSAM, although some cops have been arrested for the crime. Earlier this year, a Pennsylvania cop was arrested for making AI porn from photos on driver’s licenses, and more recently in Korea, a police officer was arrested for making AI porn, including CSAM, The Korea Times reported.
Pigs don’t do this, except for all the times they did. LOL
“Making AI porn from photos on driver’s licenses” Given the quality usually of such photos it’s almost an achievement.
My drivers license photo makes me look like Ike from the most recent episode of South Park after he is rescued from the backrooms of Sephora.
I usually dont judge peoples hobbies, but DAMN 🤣
so rare!
I have made multiple videos lately intended to bring more visibility to the fact that American tech companies, and their models, are either being used to generate CSAM or promote people internationally who do, so seeing this headline makes my morning.
I personally don’t care if it was produced artificially or not. These sick fucks need to be imprisoned and thrown in gen pop.
The companies that provide the bots should also be punished somehow. It’s clear they either don’t have any safeguards in place or the ones they have are insufficient.
Its called regulation. You know, that thing we don’t have for guns in the us?
100%
Right now the only real accountability for these companies is when they get sued or put on blast enough on social media. I think that will eventually change, but it won’t happen due to the legal system in the US. It’ll happen because some random country put their foot down internationally.
All of this can be done on a graphics card from 3 generations ago locally though - it’s like Photoshop you know, people can use Photoshop to make revenge porn but Photoshop isn’t illegal, using it to make revenge porn is illegal.
It’s only illegal if the law is actually enforced. Thankfully, due to MeToo, revenge porn gets way more of a response from the law than it did.
That is not currently the case in any meaningful way with image generators being used to make CSAM, which is why it’s important that the companies themselves be held liable. Grok still lets you do this if you buy a sub. Copilot lets you do this and Microsoft knows it, per recent leaks from their prompt reviewers. Meta runs ads for CSAM on Facebook.
In this case, multiple tech companies are knowingly enabling these crimes without a peep from the law to stop them. (At least in the US.)
I don’t think you’re understanding what they’re trying to say.
You don’t need to use Grok/Claude/Copilot/Gemini/ChatGPT/etc. at all. Hugging Face currently lists 111,953 text-to-image and 2,893 text-to-video models available.
You can run an image or video generator model at home on your own hardware you currently have. This technology doesn’t require a $10k rig to run. The massive data centers are only necessary for the Software as a Service providers like ChatGPT to operate their systems as fast as possible to tens of thousands of users, with dozens of agents processing multiple steps and reasoning to accomplish a task. One person making one image doesn’t need much.
While the SaaS options definitely need to get better at detecting and blocking usage like CSAM… those services are by no means required. You can do this on any gaming system made in the last 5 years easily, and older if you’re willing to wait longer for the result.
Okay, but can we not get local models banned, please? This is what openai and company are gonna use to say we have to pay them if we want AI.
Banning open source is never a useful option
For real? Next you’re gonna tell me Adobe is at fault too for letting you xray nude people (modifying existing colour channels in existing images to see through clothes), and knife manufacturers are at fault for you stabbing everyone
There’s a difference.
Both of those scenarios are meaningfully regulated under the law. (Specifically revenge porn, misusing a person’s likeness, and stabbing people.) Also, if you don’t think providing someone with a weapon in the knowledge that they intend to do harm to a person with it will get you into some serious legal shit, you would be incorrect.
CSAM via AI, currently, is not and major tech firms are flouting that fact for profit. (Or, more accurately, in a desperate grasp for any profit, since AI isn’t profitable.) Absent meaningful regulation it is imperative to hold the companies knowingly creating the dangerous product accountable legally and financially. We know they can program their models not to do this because several of them don’t have demonstrated it.
Also, thanks to leakers, we know 100% that the companies doing this are aware of what they’re doing. I made a whole video about it.
CSAM absolutely is… What a wild thing to say
CSAM, yes.
CSAM via AI, no.
And the word you’re ignoring here is ‘meaningfully’, which is pretty important.
https://www.ic3.gov/PSA/2024/PSA240329
The FBI is warning the public that child sexual abuse material (CSAM) created with content manipulation technologies, to include generative artificial intelligence (AI), is illegal. Federal law prohibits the production, advertisement, transportation, distribution, receipt, sale, access with intent to view, and possession of any CSAM,1 including realistic computer-generated images.
Respectfully please stfu, you’re spreading incredibly harmful misinformation. The article we’re commenting on is even about the arrest of a CSAM generator??
Is this meaningfully enforced though? I agree that accuracy about what the law says is important, but laws are being unevenly enforced, making them, by definition, privileges. Just because the government calls it a law doesn’t mean it functions as one in the practical sense, which is what matters most.
Harmful about law, useful about facts of life one like that generating a picture doesn’t involve abusing a child, so it’s not child sexual abuse material (CSAM).
Yes, I do feel threatened by people who think it’s just to punish consuming generated material. That’s because of pretty “normal” porn. Is watching (and spreading) something about BSDM similar to sexual abuse materials (about adults)? Is generated porn sexual exploitation material, if porn is in some future outlawed as such with real punishments? Is it, if the dataset is polluted with cases of slavery and rape? If it’s not, then is it legal in such a potential future?
If you do that to CSAM, try applying the same logic to normal porn and plenty of other things which are for some people sick, but legal because nobody suffers.
The problem with generated CSAM is that it normalizes sick things, well, that’s still a crime an order of magnitude less than spreading a record of real rape. Seems obvious.
Again, you’re ignoring important context.
That’s okay though. Have a nice Sunday.
The CSAM was not “produced artificially”, but rather trained on actual abuse images, with real victims.
Each “artificial image” is a kaleidoscope of a thousand children being raped.
You’re an idiot.
And you don’t understand how image generation works. Which is typical of the people who defend it.
Maybe this is the wrong post to start a comment with
I have made multiple videos lately
You’re welcome to downvote me if you think so, but I assure you, my videos are tech critiques and not CSAM.
I personally don’t care if it was produced artificially or not. These sick fucks need to be imprisoned and thrown in gen pop.
If it’s produced artificially, then he hasn’t done any ill to a living person. He has polluted the Web, but in doing that has reduced the demand for non-artificial CSAM. It’s like “posting goatse in Facebook” level of crime at best.
And you are calling for him to be imprisoned for being a “sick fuck”, that is, for thought crime caused by mental illness.
Other than the latter being a circumstance, thought crimes are not a thing for any decent person, AFAIR.
Otherwise I’d want for sick fucks like you not understanding that a crime is a violation of someone else’s rights to be preventively imprisoned. That at least fits said condition.
Otherwise I’d want for sick fucks like you not understanding that a crime is a violation of someone else’s rights…
You mean like the right to not have your likeness fed into an algorithm and assembled into pornographic content without your consent? Or does having your image laundered by an LLM somehow magically make that ok?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
It’s like “posting goatse in Facebook” level of crime at best.
Wtf no, this is far worse! Goatse, afaik, was photographed and published consensually. Artificial CSAM is constructed from real CSAM, to the point that real CSAM victims have sued people who generated material resembling the victim.
Yeah, this is nothing like certain drawings or “this fictional character is 15”, AI image generators construct this shit from images of actual children. Anyone attempting to defend this only wants to use arts as a shield for exploitation of actual, living kids
