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    If you have a Facebook account. You support this. No excuses. You have had plenty of time to make arrangements and adjust.

    You 100% are participating in the financing of this shit.

  • Gil Wanderley@lemmy.eco.br
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    Meta is also meddling with Brazilian elections. The left wing party had their posts reach hindered by “technical problems”, and the Meta AI last week would gladly generate images with the first name and number of the right wing candidate, but refuse to generate images with the left wing candidate number or name. It has been better filtered after the electoral court questioned Meta about it, but TODAY someone tested asking for a fictional presidential candidate, and the AI “accidentally” added the right wing candidate’s number (on the left of the image).

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    Never ever ever rely on the oppressor or the network/platform of the oppressor to get information to the oppressed.

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      They’ve spent years banning Palestinian reporters in Gaza and deleting genocide evidence… This isn’t a test, they already know they can get away with it.

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    Oh wow it is really happening now. I mean they always helped to influence elections, but now they are just another arm of the corrupt government.

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    Do your best to turn your maga family against corporations. Need as many people wanting change as possible.

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    Big tech really needs to be broken up. Especially Meta, Google and Amazon are way too large for their own good.

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      Our anti trust laws mandate breaking them up too. But the courts are as fucked as the political class, and the lawyers and attorneys generals are even worse.

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    The coalition demanded answers, raising concerns about technology platforms’ influence over political organizing and speech.

    They only have the influence you give them. Stop organising on corporate platforms.

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      17 hours ago

      What platform would you organise on that can handle the load whilst not being subject to terms where they can take down your protest events?

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        People managed just fine in the past. Word of mouth. Fliers. Set up a lightweight static website. You don’t need 70k people to be able to press a 「いいね」 button or leave a comment. People can use text messages, IM, email, and their own facebook groups, twitter groups, or whatever to spread the word. You can keep physical ledgers of people you organise with.

        There’s no reason that a group of 70k people couldn’t be thousands of groups of handfuls of individuals all working for a similar cause.

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          The No Kings Protest is the largest protest in US history and likely globally. We have not seen any protests of this scale organised via traditional means before (that’s not to say it can’t happen, but you know how Chinese whispers goes)

          For a point of reference, there were 8 million people present

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            Good. I heard that they are pretty milquetoast on the demands but I’m glad people are protesting.

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        There is none, that is the whole point. Who do you bank with if the government tells private banks not to serve you. Who reports your story if the news is owned by opposition forces. Who represents you if you don’t have enough money to bribe/pay them. The system is designed to reward one thing, wealth.

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          Even that would fall over presently at the scale of these protests with over 7 million active participants, and probably ten times that in online visitors

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            I don’t think you understand how it works.

            E: For those of you who don’t understand how the fediverse works, it’s a distributed network of servers. I can host 100 users on a potato. Vested interests like Vivaldi can host 6300 users. Non-profit platforms like Mastodon can host a few million. Not that hard to match Meta’s infrastructure when the resources required per individual are so much less, and is distributed across so much more.

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              There’s roughly 1 million monthly active users across the entire fediverse, comprised of roughly 41000 servers

              How do you reckon it’d cope with a sudden 70m users, with no other changes, overnight? The fediverse has growth problems as it is

              Napkin math, we’d be talking about at least 35 new instances with about 1000 of the beefiest servers, but at that point the networking and federating falls on its face. One Lemmy maintainer estimates a postgres database for Lemmy could peak at barely over 1000 inserts per second, when you’d need 16.6k per second if the load was well distributed over time and much more if it varied by time

              You’d be looking at custom software just to handle this one distributed event planning problem. It’s well beyond the capabilities and resources of protest organisers to build an entire technology stack to handle event planning

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                How do you reckon it’d cope with a sudden 70m users, with no other changes, overnight?

                You’re just creating ridiculous hypotheticals. It wouldn’t happen overnight and it wouldn’t happen without any other changes.

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                  How is it a ridiculous hypothetical? The proposal made was that these people now need a platform to move to, if they’re not going to use big tech, where do they go? Building a whole new architecture and platform is a bit out of scope. If your answer is that there is no other platform, then just say that.

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          A personal website to handle the organisation of over seven million boots on the ground? And probably more than ten times that in web visitors, without even counting bots and saboteurs? Bruh

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            Ok…

            1. Are you suggesting that a Facebook group could handle that?

            2. Web forums exist (the kind that were completely ubiquitous 25 years ago). They’re a great way to handle a large number of concurrent conversations.

            You can still use robust hosting solutions that can handle a lot of traffic, but the advantage of controlling the site yourself is that if wordpress decides to take it down, you can just host it somewhere else and have it back up the same day.

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              Across all the no kings protest events on Facebook? Yes? How many concurrent users do you think they handle daily?

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                  I’m asking for one existing single alternative that’ll work that’s not big tech

                  You need it to scale to something like 70 million active user accounts

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      Is it possible to create these pages on Facebook to make a trail of censorship? Evidence it is being manually manipulated?