• Tiral@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    You mean borderline slave labor? Because that’s pretty much what Chinese manufacturing is.

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Chinese manufacturing did a major turn around in the last couple of decades though can still be awful.

      Chinese fishing on the other hand is still almost 100% powered by slaves. Just look up the conditions these people are in while absolutely decimating our oceans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tuS1LLOcsI

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      22 hours ago

      my company is trying to adopt the 996. It’s no longer isolated to china…

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      1 day ago

      As someone who actually knows some Chinese nationals, no it isn’t. What you are actually objecting to is Chinese people having jobs.

      Some of these jobs have dorms, which accounts for why there are so few people who are street homeless.

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      1 day ago

      Yeah, I know I’m not gonna go with that 1990s bullshit anymore. The middle class is stronger than the American middle class so I hope you’re not an American… because that would mean you occupy the same corporate dictatorship that I do. Suppressing free speech everywhere. Pushing half the country into poverty while china pulls theirs out? Yeah bro must really suck to live in China right now.

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        1 day ago

        I have connects in China. Some Chinese have fixed salary work contracts and their money is allegedly deflating. I’m jelly, I had to warn people not to brag.

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            17 hours ago

            Not if your company is required by law to pay you a certain amount based on buying power, according to this guy I spoke to. Granted, this is stuff I’m learning secondhand from friends, I’m not a financial expert and they could very well be blowing smoke in order to brag on themselves.

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      1 day ago

      Maybe if you are comparing it to the US cost of living? The average manufacturing job for tech companies in China is around 12k usd a year, while a middle class yearly income starts around 15k a year. So they are in the upper end of the working class.

      The basic cost of living is just extremely cheap compared to western countries. Although the wages are only 20-25% when compared to US manufacturing, the cost of basic necessities like housing and food are about 3x cheaper.

      It really matters what region you are talking about, tier 1 cities are quite a bit more expensive than tier 2 and 3, but still affordable compared to western nations.

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        1 day ago

        the cost of basic necessities like housing and food are about 3x cheaper.

        Depends. Newly built apartments will set you back $200k after conversion there, some years ago it could easily reach $500k.

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          1 day ago

          In a tier 1 city, I wouldn’t doubt that. That’s the equivalent of buying a new apartment in NYC or San Francisco.

          However, unlike the US there are an over abundance of older living spaces that are much much affordable.

          • Bobby@leminal.space
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            17 hours ago

            In rural areas where they only have dry toilets and no indoor bath house, many Chinese nationals have Internet and clean water. This is not the case for the deep country in the US.