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Data centers are essential, but internet doesn’t count as a utility. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Almost like anything corpos or their shills say can be assumed lies
Funny enough media was the only ones spewing that EVs couldn’t be handled by the infrastructure. No facts, no research. Being in the utilities field, ask any colleague that our infrastructure is no where near capacity.
I always thought they meant the existing house services couldn’t handle the load. Many older homes in my area would not be able to support an additional 5-12kW+, using Leviton’s level 2 as an example.
Sure there are lots of charging options.
I’m assuming we’re in the USA.
Also, I’m pro EV. Not a pro data center person.
I’m just trying to cover all the Lenny triggers.
To be fair, it was only a few small areas that couldn’t handle that kind of load, mostly because they couldn’t handle the load they already had.
I think it’s unlikely that data centers were built in those few areas.
Data centers are being built in precisely areas that can’t handle them because the land+construction is cheapest.
I was referring to areas that couldn’t handle their existing electrical load. In nearly all of those areas, the scarcity of electricity drives up the price, so it seems unlikely a data center would build there due to how high the ongoing power costs would be.
I hate to disappoint you, but data centers are driving up the price of electricity. This is a very well-documented phenomenon.
Data centers are driving up the price of electricity, but why would they build in a place where electricity was already extremely high?
My dude, data center owners are actually trying to stand up new nuclear facilities to fulfill their own demand. Doesn’t matter if it’s in New York or Wyoming: math’s clearly not working out.
(FWIW I’m totally on board with new power infrastructure, but I don’t trust these geniuses to build or maintain it)
Source? I’m pretty sure that those areas also have lower demand, which drives down the price.
I get the meme, but these really aren’t the same issues - the current state of many residential grids potentially not being able to support the load of everyone charging electric vehicles is not the same problem as industrial power consumption being excessively high. A data center has it’s own substation - some of them even have dedicated hv / uhv service. The risks they pose are completely different (and in the case of electric vehicles only situationally a valid concern, unlike with data centers)
the concern is also assuming everyone is doing fast charging at the same time at night, but in reality most overnight charging would use the power draw that is more similar to a space heater.
Yep! While broad statements are going to be broad around EVs, the reasonable average for actually charging a car overnight is closer to 5 kwh, and for some models it’s up as high 10+ kwh. That much per household is a genuinely significant increase to the base load of a local grid, and given how rickety so much of the infrastructure in the US is, it 100% is a concern that municipal power companies are actively working to address. Most places do not have to do anything, but… that’s not everywhere, and rural grids are pretty decrepit at this point. It’s not insurmountable even a little, but we cannot simply have everyone switch to an electric car without some infrastructure work being done without real issues arising.
In a not-fascist timeline, there would be no problem. But the issue is that getting the funding for infrastructure work is… very difficult due to trump admin fuckery, and so they can cite that lack of infrastructure investment as the reason to not invest in infrastructure and electric cars. It’s really just a whole comprehensive gift to grift they’ve created for themselves.
