• Aux@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Yeah, they’re pretty much owned by Google, thus not a competitor.

      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        9 months ago

        Google paying Firefox explicitly to make Google the default search engine. That doesn’t mean they own Firefox in any way shape or form. Firefox routinely makes anti Google decisions, and acts against googles interest. It’s pretty clear they aren’t googles bitch.

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          9 months ago

          Most of the revenue of Mozilla Corporation comes from Google (81% in 2022). They have influence.

          The excuse of search engine funding is a fig leaf for the US and monopoly laws.

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            9 months ago

            Google pays every browser they can to make Google the default search engine. Including direct competitors, and companies that have a direct interest in going against Google. Companies like Apple, who butt heads with Google regularly.

            That doesn’t mean they have influence.

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                9 months ago

                Can you point to an example of Mozilla bending the knee, in the slightest, on a subject Google would want them to have a different opinion than normal on?

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                    9 months ago

                    The first explicitly states its conjecture. In reality, it’s much more likely in my mind that Mozilla is not well suited to fast paced changes like the recent YouTube cat and mouse Adblock saga. Imagine if you were waiting not for an extension update, but a browser update.

                    The second isn’t even about Mozilla. They rely on Google for the anti phishing list. Is there a free and open alternative? I legitimately can’t find one. I can find paid alternatives, but I doubt users would be willing to pay.

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                9 months ago

                Yeah that would be problematic to an extent. But I doubt that’ll happen, and if it did I’m sure it would continue just in a slower/reduced capacity.