For all we know it could have been requested years ago by developers who have apps that get pirated but there was no mechanism in place to implement it at the time, and wasn’t a priority.

Just because it’s beneficial to Google maintaining more direct control now, that doesn’t necessarily mean that’s the origin.

More likely because it has nothing to do with the topic of discussion.

Some people seem to forget that younger generations get older too.

This has almost nothing to do with Google, it’s a feature that has to be enabled by the app developer. Meaning they want to exclude users getting the APK for their app from elsewhere.

Eh, no one else is doing anything to provide support apart from Google either. Anyone else could do their own thing, no one is prevented from their own support. But very few companies and carriers even began to develop support for RCS, even after the Universal Profile. That is why Google developed their own support and built that support into the native app.

Verizon had their own RCS support via a proprietary carrier-specific app that never worked with anyone outside Verizon as far as I remember, and they dropped it in favor of Google’s option as soon as that was available. Samsung had their own RCS support in their proprietary Messaging app, also dropped because Google provides the same support on all of their products and Samsung doesn’t have to do anything or support it in any way. Google now provides an option for all Android devices specifically because almost no one was adding support on their own.

Anyone can, no one else will, because they have no reason to. The average user doesn’t care whether it’s Google, their carrier, or the manufacturer providing support for sending high quality photos to their friend’s phone number as long as it works.

Samsung had support before Google and Jibe… but they have abandoned their own RCS support. Simply because Google’s works on all of their devices and they don’t need to do any development to support it going forwards. Why pay for development and support for a system you don’t have to and get nothing from? No one is buying a Samsung phone for the Samsung Messages RCS capability.

This isn’t done out of altruism.

I never said or even got close to claiming that it was.

But there is a distinct difference between Google taking a fragmented RCS implementation across carriers and manufacturers on Android devices, and providing a single universally supported option for Android (the operating system that they control, but don’t prevent others from modifying heavily)… and Apple actively trying to avoid RCS support entirely in favor of their own proprietary system that does not support any products they don’t make and sell directly. Verizon had their own RCS app on Android, and Samsung added RCS support to their Messaging app on their devices, among others prior to the Universal Profile and Google adding support directly in Android Messages. That’s not something anyone can do or offer for iPhones other than Apple

Google worked to add support for essentially all Android customers. Apple decided none of their customers should be able to use RCS, whether they want to or not, simply because they had their own thing that only their customers could use and won’t let anyone else use. You can’t possibly be trying to claim that Apple is in any way a good guy here. Comparing the two directly here, Apple is clearly worse with no good reasoning for it, it is entirely for selfish reasons.

And absolutely zero users care about the reasons. They only know that sending messages back and forth is dogshit.

The source of the lack of support across is Apple not wanting to even try because they want everyone to use their proprietary system on their devices instead. Google at least implemented a system to get RCS support to as many devices as they could, even when carriers didn’t do anything to help. Apple instead had to be threatened by regulators before they even began to consider looking at it.

Well I’ve been able to RCS with basically everyone on an android phone since 2019 with almost no issues. That’s 5 years now.

I don’t really care how Apple wants to try and justify it. The answer is they don’t want to add support for an alternative to their walled garden proprietary system that no one else can use. They want to force everyone onto an iPhone and iMessage if possible. The only reason they’re even looking at RCS support now is because of regulators starting to look at their glaring lack of support for interoperability.

That wouldn’t be an issue today if Apple had started supporting RCS, the replacement for the old SMS/MMS system years ago like every Android phone. Instead of trying to strangle it by acting like iMessage on iOS was the only solution.

Ukrainians don’t run the US banking and entertainment industries. They can hold them hostage and bring the country to its knees if they wanted to.

Anything car related with BT is almost always the car’s fault. They use shit hardware and don’t care about the software because no one can do anything about it. No one is picking their car based on the BT support.

Put the newest intern in charge for a year. They couldn’t do much worse than the last 4 CEOs, and would be much cheaper.

Those speeds would be under ideal conditions, like sitting on land on a clear day with no weather.

It’s not about the raw speed honestly, but the machine latency and stability of the signal. Traditional GEO satellites need a pretty steady platform to maintain connection. The mobile capable dishes are usually less capable than fixed position ones because they need to be less directional to maintain a signal while moving. But in say rougher seas, the movement will be vastly different than a boat just sitting on a lake.

Starlink can compensate for this better because it’s designed to utilize multiple lower satellites simultaneously in view and a more omni-directional dish, alongside a signal that only needs to go to LEO. The difference between LEO and GEO or its is absolutely massive. The Starlink satellite constellation operates between 1/30 and 1/105 the distance of traditional GEO satellites. This means a latency of 25-35ms since they are so much lower. Lower latency will mean lower packet loss from instability which means higher throughout.

For a real world use case, look at the SpaceX landing ships. They originally used traditional GEO satellites for those video streams, and the motion and vibration from the rocket getting near caused total signal loss. Often signal loss for a white a while after the lending was over because the ship was still moving too much. After they switched to Starlink, I think I can remember maybe twice at the beginning where the signal cut for a second or so, and once they had a few launches to provide more consistent coverage and satellite redundancy, I can’t even remember the last time we lost a signal during a landing.

Real time video streams are essentially the worst use case for traditional satellite communication, and the differences between the network types of night and day.

And ocean communication.

It’s amazingly clear none of these people have ever tried to use any of the existing Geostationary satellite data networks.

They are slow as shit. Not just by modern standards, by any standards. HughesNet is one of the remaining satellite Internet providers.

$50/mo gives you 50Mbps speeds, 100GB of “Priority Data”, whatever the fuck that is (probably your 50Mbps data, then it slows). And that price is only for a year, then it is $75/mo. They also love to tout a 30ms latency somehow, but that’s just a damned lie. Latency for a Geostationary satellite is around 500ms, or roughly the speed of light because that’s physics. So I have no idea where they think they’re getting 30ms, unless that’s only the additional latency they’re claiming AFTER it bounces off the satellite and reaches the ground to be routed to the internet on their end.

Why remove the option we know for a fact was extremely effective?

Because it system if government was setup with certain assumptions of the time.

Only rich landowning white men would be voting. Those men had the time to stay educated on world events because of either slaves or staff running their day to day business.

Certain customs were socially enforced simply as a matter of course. Scandal often meant resignation or recusal, or you would be ostracized from society entirely. If no one would work with you, your business, and wealth would die.

The media almost singlehandedly bringing Watergate to the average American’s attention was why Murdoch created Fox News. It was created specifically so they could force control of the narrative to their advantage.

And then we allowed every other media corporation to be bought and do the same once they saw it worked so well.

Not just curved, but curved quite substantially, despite what your eyes may tell you. At eye level on a flat plain you can only see about 3 miles due to the curvature. The closest points across the Atlantic are 1,770 miles apart.

Welcome to the Republican platform for the last 30+ years. They’re been calling everything under the sun Communist, Socialist, and Fascist specifically so people no longer know what those words mean. Combine that with reducing both federal and state education spending whenever possible and vilifying upper education as some sort of liberal conspiracy/propaganda machine, and you’re just about caught up.