Date who you want. Do what you think is best. But it’s weird that abortion is so often posited as a gender question when race is a better predictor. If white women stop voting for Republicans all of our rights would be safe.
Talk to your mothers and aunts, the rest of us can’t outvote them yet.
why aren’t you guys screaming?
I screamed when Bush won a second term. I screamed when Trump won his first term. The American people can’t really let me down any further than they already have.
Do you mean rioting? The guy even won the popular vote, possibly fair and square. Are you under the impression that there is some action we can take at this point to improve the situation?
because people couldn’t get no injustice, they stayed home
That’s not a valid interpretation of the situation. Millions of people who voted for Biden did not come out for Kamala. There’ll be a lot of people trying to discern why and you probably won’t like my guess, but it’s too early to really have good information. Exit polls said only about 10 percent of people cared about Gaza at all. This idea of progressives not voting, sending the election to Trump doesn’t hold water at all. Dems first instinct is to punch left. I hope they learn a better lesson from this loss.
People who don’t vote aren’t hanging out on Lemmy talking about politics. All of the vitriol from Democrats is even more misplaced than usual. This outcome was pretty much what I thought would happen, but when I talk about how Dem decisions aren’t exciting voters, the response is to admonish me to vote, missing the point entirely.
it’s broken deliberately by one side to suit them,
Refusing to admit the part the Dems play is part of the problem as well. We can’t keep doing the same thing we’ve always done, and if we don’t learn from this we are truly doomed.
That’s fair and I respect your decision.
I was excited about Obama. For whatever reason I thought he’d be a lot more progressive than he ended up being.
I phone banked for Clinton. Was never a fan, but I agree that Trump was/is uniquely dangerous.
I voted for Biden. He was explicitly picked to be the conservative balance to the liberal firebrand, Obama (😬), but hey vote Blue no matter who, right?
The counterpoint to this thinking, for me: Where does this end? Do I stick it out until the next “unimportant” Presidential election? At what point am I just enabling the Dems to run rightward to pick up imaginary centrist Republicans while ignoring the left and the working class?
I doubt the DNC will learn their lesson from this election. I hoped they’d learn from a win, but I pray they take this loss to heart. The idea that Republicans somehow convinced people that they’re the party of unions and the working class is laughable, but if they could do that, that says Dems aren’t making the difference in people’s lives that they should be.
I voted for the Unity party largely to make this point. I live in Colorado. That’s “shooting myself in the head”?
I heard someone say “Well what if so many voters vote third party that they lose the state?” In this scenario…if Colorado is even close…it’s a fantasy to think they’d still have Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio, or Texas. There is no path to 270 that doesn’t involve Colorado being firmly blue enough that vote won’t change anything.
I respect the right of people in swing states to vote their conscience as well, but that’s obviously a different consideration. But the vitriol a lot of Dems have without even asking where someone lives is just weird.
This is meaningless though.
You said “a clear majority voted for Trump”. In fact: a majority of Americans didn’t vote for a fascist. That is a good thing.
Neither did a majority of Americans vote for a milquetoast centrist, but I don’t expect anyone to take a great deal of comfort or pain in that fact.
You need to learn to read graphs, bud. Whatever that is, it’s not what you’re claiming it is.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls
53% of white women voted for Trump.
21% of Black men.
And once again, the majority of white women vote Republican.
the person has to be able to fill out and sign it themselves.
This. If she voted, but it is postmarked after her death, it will probably be flagged, however, you haven’t broken the law.
That’s not an argument that being filmed at a polling place is dangerous.
I’m not sure a good argument can be made. Being at a polling place doesn’t say who you’re voting for. I don’t see the danger.
Having two different realities is not good. I’m not sure what is to be done about it though. Some people will always choose to believe the easy lie over the difficult truth.
Ignoring Fox and the crazies for a moment, how often have mainstream networks given equal time to climate change deniers and actual scientists, pretending there was a debate where there wasn’t one.
I want to push back a little on “we all agreed on what was and what was not reality.” When there were three TV stations, did any of them highlight police brutality? Overincarceration? The military industrial complex? Anything that would hurt their sponsor’s bottom lines?
The news networks we have today are all owned by large media conglomerates. They range from pro-corporate to pro-fascist. I’m glad that there are enough independent voices that we can hear from people who don’t profit off of the status quo. It’s unfortunate that right wing media is so prevalent and well funded, but if there is an answer to that, it’s not going back to the days when Walter Cronkite, CBS, and Gulf+Western would tell us “That’s the way it is”.
I can’t respect conservatives because lying is their first go to on any issue. Instead of trying to convince people that their plans are good, they just lie about their plans. (Which is unsurprising, because their plans have been proven not to work.)
I hope that every Republican angry that a Democrat might do something good steps on a LEGO tonight.
I’m sure the FEC will jump right on that.
Journalistic ethics means disclosing this sort of thing. It probably is good to point out, just so that norms don’t get completely forgotten, but, yeah, this shouldn’t surprise anyone.
Posting Stein’s tweet is a good burn, but not much more.
Applying Stein’s logic to herself: what did she do to “earn” David Duke’s endorsement? That’s easy: she backed Palestine over Israel. Even if a racist happens to agree, that doesn’t make that stance wrong.
I refuse to believe anyone is laughing at Rob Schneider.
When I look at the “pro Trump side” I see made up nonsense and impossible conspiracy theories. When I look at the anti Trump side I see videos of Trump talking.
The video on cancel looks like QVC. The “Trump Combat Knife” and banner promoting patriotaddictdeals.com just sum up the Republican party so well.
The DNC is working for their rich donors and doing a pretty decent job for them. They shouldn’t act so surprised that people who aren’t benefiting from the economy don’t come out to support them.