• QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml
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      The initial allegations came from a Western-funded NGO report and were then amplified across U.S.-aligned media and political channels(Radio Free Asia). Official investigations did not substantiate claims of criminal law-enforcement activity. For example, authorities in the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada stated they found no evidence of illegal policing operations, though concerns were raised about registration and transparency.

      So not really a good reason to believe some nefarious global intimidation ring. You should probably read things before you link them.

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        16 hours ago

        What kind of strawman is this? You can intimidate people without doing it the obvious illegal way.

        And then, you cherry pick some countries…

        You know that you can just accept negative facts about China although you are on an ml instance??

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          11 hours ago

          You know that you can just accept negative facts about China although you are on an ml instance??

          If you look through my profile you’ll see I do this often. But this bullshit about global intimidation is not a fact, it’s a fantasy.

          You can intimidate people without doing it the obvious illegal way. And then, you cherry pick some countries…

          I picked those countries because specifically they have laws making intimidation a crime and they found no evidence.

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              9 hours ago

              No that’s a border dispute. Pretty much every country has them. And it’s completely unrelated to the point at hand about a global intimidation ring targeting individuals. Nice try with the false equivalence tho 2 or 3 more debate bro tactics and you might catch me out on some asinine technicality so you can declare yourself winner despite being factually wrong.

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                9 hours ago

                Pretty much every country has them.

                I’m from Germany. I don’t think, we do that over here…

                I mean… Those intimidation stations exist in my country. They are still here. Not sure what exactly your point is…

                And their behavior in the South China sea is pretty much based on intimidation and aggression. That’s well documented.

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                  9 hours ago

                  The Wikipedia article you linked cites allegations and then that multiple official investigations found insufficient evidence to classify these offices as illegal policing operations or intimidation stations.

                  “They could be intimidating people in ways we can’t prove” isn’t an argument, it’s an unfalsifiable claim, and a hallmark of bad-faith debate.

                  The South China Sea is a separate territorial dispute. Conflating it with a supposed global campaign targeting individuals is either a deep misunderstanding or deliberate obfuscation.

                  I’ve addressed the sources, the evidence, and the logic. You’ve doubled down on vagueness and false equivalence. I’m done. If you ever find verifiable proof of coordinated illegal intimidation (not allegations from American funded NGOs, not speculation) feel free to present it. Until then, I’m personally done with this.