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    These people don’t even read their own literature. The Catholic church’s ban on alchemy is about falsely claiming something is a valuable metal in order to pay for debts. It has nothing to do with the occult – the ban was because it’s a sin to lie / cheat / steal. A saint is even on record saying that alchemical gold is ok if the end if product is real gold.

    With that context, of course God doesn’t give a shit if you use SQLAlchemy as long as you aren’t using it to defraud people. If you were defrauding people, it wouldn’t matter what tool you used.

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      I’m shocked that a person who thinks the name of a piece of software can harm them doesn’t understand their own religion.

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    The user shouldn’t code in Python. That’s a fucking serpent. It caused Eve to eat the apple. Original sin. Holy shit, the most popular coding language is from the fucking devil! Mask off, mind blown, what the eff.

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    Is there a link to the original post? I want to see the replies. Unfortunately I can’t find it.

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    I don’t see how the term “Alchemy” is any different than “Transubstantiation”, and the Catholic Church seems pretty down with that.

    Imagine living your entire life with this kind of fear. Religion does crazy things to people’s minds.

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    I’m not Catholic but I’m pretty sure the answer is no.

    Playing games with religious themes is also not a sin, as you are expected to understand the difference between fact and fiction.

    My source is that one of my best friends is Catholic

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      If they understood the difference between fact and fiction they wouldn’t be a catholic. They’re supposed to believe that crackers and wine literally turn into Jesus’s body and blood by saying an incantation. Alchemy makes more sense than that, so I could see some people having issues.

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        No, it symbolically turns into the flesh and blood of Christ.

        God this kind of edge Lord bad theology bullshit is one of the reasons why I’m glad I’m not allowed to read it anymore. Do I have to see it here too?

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          No, Catholicism dogma says it literally changes into it through transubstantiation. That’s what the church teaches. You can not believe that part if you like, like I do, I just go slightly further and not have belief in any of it.

          In a thread about making fun of the beliefs of a catholic, it’s wrong to make fun of the beliefs of catholics? What is the difference between making fun of the silly belief that this person can’t use a tool named after alchemy and making fun of their belief in their own form of spellcraft? If you weren’t in a thread literally making fun of the beliefs of a religious person, you might have some ground to stand on. As it is though, why are you in this thread at all if you are bothered by it?

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            They take on the spiritual qualities of such things, on the outward they still remain wine and bread, even says that in the very article you posted. And again, Wikipedia is not a credible source, did you not take High school?

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        No, no literally, figuratively.

        The fact is there is no evidence for existance of God. But also there is no evidence that disproves the existence of God.

        But still… there was a guy 2000 years ago that said “There is God”

        And whole religion is based on a question “do I believe the guy that lived 2000 years ago”

        And I said yes and I don’t care what your answer is.

        Just don’t be a douchebag.

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      Hehe, religious people and understanding the difference between fact and fiction… 😂

      I mean the very root of it is doing away with facts, and just keeping the fiction.

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          I’m sorry. I don’t think this is a “Reddit thing”. I’ve been here longer than I’ve been on Reddit. I agree that we have the same dynamics here, that people often are incentivized to reply with negative comments. But this is a community with “Humor” in the name. And edgy humor is part of the discussion. And where I’m from, being an atheist is fairly common. I still think if you were able to tell facts from fiction, you wouldn’t be religious in the first place and mixing both terms in one sentence is kind of an oxymoron. So I think it’s more that both the audience on Reddit and on Lemmy is quite diverse. And we both have different perspectives on life, probably also are part of different cultures and maybe have a different take on humor and which things to scroll past and which things to reply to.

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            I’m seeing the edgy, but not the humor.

            “ReLIEgion bad, upvotes to the left” isn’t funny, it’s just annoying

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              That is a reddit mindset. I don’t think it works that way here. Comments usually get only a few votes on Lemmy and I don’t think many people chose this platform for the upvotes. That specific post got 0 upvotes and 1 downvote (given my instance fixed federation and the numbers are correct now.) I don’t want to get on your nerves too much. Just explain my perspective. Religious people are super loud. They want to dictate how I live, if I can marry someone if I’m gay, oppress women, oppress minorities and they wage war all around the world. Have done so for centuries, and continue to do so. I feel entitled to call out their BS as long as they try to make everyone’s life worse. I promise to stop in the exact moment they refrain from politics, violence and stop telling me and my surroundings how to live our lives. You can’t just do all of that and then expect the other side to stay silent.

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    This person is really gonna hate my new web framework “I submit to the horned lord, Lucifer, the light bringer and ruler of this world. All hail Satan.”

    I think it’s gonna be big since it’s the only web framework for Malbolge.

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        Depends on how you interpret the Golden Age text. But you’re correct that the former is the light bringer and the latter is adversary/legal opponent.

        But the silver age crap messed with that canon.

        My head canon is that Lucifer was a member of the Q Continuum while Satan was a misunderstood Time Lord.

        The Pope needs to have a sit-down with the folks at Disney to learn how to properly manage a shared imaginary universe.

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          Bro, you’re not in high school anymore. No one is impressed that you threw a fit when Mom took you to church that one time.

          Also I wouldn’t get Disney’s help for a shared imaginary universe, considering the Marvel Cinematic Universe was cool, but it’s been going on too long, none of the shows are any good.

          It really should have ended it end game, because it just feels like every movie now is just build up for a different thing, and the only part of it anyone cares about anymore is what Spider-Man meme are they going to do?

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        It’s OK. I’m making a joke, not calling the corners… Though I guess this could be sort of a ward for a software community, but I think it wouldn’t have to be any kind of accurate to work given the entity it’s keeping out.

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    Reminder that alchemy didn’t go away, it evolved into modern chemistry. So of you think alchemy is occult then you better take a good look at all the engineered chemicals around you and either accept your place in hell or go live in a cave.

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      Hehe. I get it. But it’s not really true. It’s like saying a horse evolved into a car or an Ox into a tractor. Just because it replaced it or did the same job doesn’t mean it’s related or the initial thing didn’t go away. Alchemy is putting together random substances to create gold. Chemistry is backed by science and rooted in reality. It’s probably closer related to cooking (where you also mix substances) than to alchemy 😉 Pseudoscience didn’t do away, but I’m positive alchemy did.