• tekato@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    It is not a mischaracterization though. Open source projects can be forced to stop accepting contributions from employees of sanctioned companies, which would include Tencent employees if sanctioned. Anyways, Tencent is not being sanctioned here, so I guess it doesn’t really matter.

    Also, Linus was definitely forced to kick the Russian maintainers out by USA sanctions.

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      3 hours ago

      Force implies force. If you have evidence that it was actually done by force. Against Torvald’s etc will. Please share it. Otherwise get out of here with your gasslighting.

      Any project open source or otherwise can and does restrict contribution.

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        2 hours ago

        Saying that I’m gaslighting without even bothering to check the facts is a very interesting approach. USA sanctions on Russia regarding software and IT services went into effect on September, and all parties had 90 days to comply or be sanctioned as well. If he really did it only because he wanted to, why not do it as soon as the Russian invasion started? Why not do it as soon as the sanctions were announced (June)? Not kicking all employees from sanctioned companies means the Linux Foundation is sanctioned as well.

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          2 hours ago

          Okay, and? Torvald and many others aren’t American, not subject to it, and publicly stated that they weren’t forced to do it.

          You’re claiming, hyperbolically might I add, that you know whats going on with Torvald and the foundation better than those people themselves. And still showing no actual proof or causation. How can anyone conclude anything other than you are gaslighting and being misleading? It’s Mega level bullshit conspiracy theories.

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            1 hour ago

            Torvald and many others aren’t American, not subject to it, and publicly stated that they weren’t forced to do it.

            This is my last response to you because you just keep saying things that are false while calling me the liar. Linus is an American citizen, and even if he wasn’t, the Linux Foundation is an American organisation.

            You’re claiming, hyperbolically might I add, that you know whats going on with Torvald and the foundation better than those people themselves. And still showing no actual proof or causation. How can anyone conclude anything other than you are gaslighting and being misleading? It’s Mega level bullshit conspiracy theories.

            Literally linked the USA sanctions that apply to this case, but ok.

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              26 minutes ago

              This is my last response to you

              Don’t threaten me with a good time.

              Link whatever you want. But prove your point. You keep saying correlation equals causation. But they’re two different words with two different meanings. Correlation does not imply causation.

              I absolutely believe the timing of this was influenced by those sanctions 100%. I also believe it was influenced by both China and Russia attacking International infrastructure. Things like the other side of the table being cut , or the ZX back door orchestrated by China last year.

              I believe all these things factor into why Linus and the foundation CHOSE to expel those contributors. Because they are vulnerable to those authoritarian States. And are thus a vector to attack the projects. Which they did not have staff or funds to audit and ensure they weren’t.

              You keep implying that this was not a choice that Torvalds and the foundation did it against their will. Despite Torvalds posting the opposite. You can keep linking to the sanctions all you want. And while I think the sanctions played a part in this. I still think Torvalds and the foundation chose to do it on their own. And were not under duress to comply. Unlike your average Russian or Chinese citizen. Not that the West is Worlds better.