No matter how justified you think that rhetorical device is - it does not fucking work. It’s always insulting. And as an effortless all-purpose grasp to delegitimize whoever you say it to, it’s been used to push total bullshit, more often than it’s been right. Find something else to say.
Pointing out dilemmas are real is not the same thing.
The people who came before me proudly said they’d skip this election, ‘and then everyone will oh no it went wrong somehow.’ I don’t recall specifying that these people were leftists. Thank you for underlining how a wide variety of people made this stupid decision. Do you think all of them doing it makes it less stupid?
Do you think all of them doing it makes it less stupid?
no more stupid than racking up election failures due to willfully ignoring the reasons for those failures and expecting things to change despite doing the same thing over and over again.
like abolition and suffrage it’s going to take generations for things in this country to get better so long as opinions like yours are popular and; also just like back then; it will be despite the liberals.
What, “don’t elect fascists?” “Less evil is better, actually?” “For the love of god, at least vote?”
Y’all are having a conversation that’s two-thirds making up what you pretend I must think. I’m glad it’s going well for you. I’m not sure my participation was necessary.
What, “don’t elect fascists?” “Less evil is better, actually?” …
everyone who disagrees with you is wrong; therefore they must drop their silly principals and fall in line because things are getting worse.
… “For the love of god, at least vote?”
leftists are highly engaged and vote, we’re the 3rd party people; that’s why the vote counts are always just as reliable as the republicans.
democrats are the ones tanked democrats when they didn’t show up to vote, so they’re your people; why not ask them?
this is not snark: i’m serious about this; digging into this is the reason why i’m not longer a democrat (i also know that i can’t sway you w stats, so this is the only way).
Y’all are having a conversation that’s two-thirds making up what you pretend I must think. I’m glad it’s going well for you. I’m not sure my participation was necessary.
i experience the same thing when i make unpopular comments in the diet reddit instances like .world.
social media tribalism is a FASCINATING phenomenon. in the future there will be two lemmy’s, one with its original instances as it is now and another one with the diet reddit instances (assuming that they can figure out how to get more non-leftist content & community that can compete w bluesky, reddit, or twitter).
Lemmy was overflowing with leftists telling people not to vote, even when the alternative is naked fascism.
Telling people to please for the love of god stop saying that is not some ‘just because you disagreeeee’ situation.
i experience the same thing when i make unpopular comments in the diet reddit instances like .world.
And that absolves you, when you unironically write shit like “everyone who disagrees with you is wrong; therefore they must drop their silly principals?”
Yeah sure buddy, Biden also wants to round up ten million people, citizenship be damned. He’s such a power-crazed dictator that he dropped out five months ago.
Never let reality get in the way of parroting “both sides!”
Biden has been spending his final months in power building migrant detention camps to hand off to Trump. The biggest policy of his administration has been an actual all out genocide.
No matter how justified you think that rhetorical device is - it does not fucking work. It’s always insulting. And as an effortless all-purpose grasp to delegitimize whoever you say it to, it’s been used to push total bullshit, more often than it’s been right. Find something else to say.
Pointing out dilemmas are real is not the same thing.
The people who came before me proudly said they’d skip this election, ‘and then everyone will oh no it went wrong somehow.’ I don’t recall specifying that these people were leftists. Thank you for underlining how a wide variety of people made this stupid decision. Do you think all of them doing it makes it less stupid?
no more stupid than racking up election failures due to willfully ignoring the reasons for those failures and expecting things to change despite doing the same thing over and over again.
like abolition and suffrage it’s going to take generations for things in this country to get better so long as opinions like yours are popular and; also just like back then; it will be despite the liberals.
What, “don’t elect fascists?” “Less evil is better, actually?” “For the love of god, at least vote?”
Y’all are having a conversation that’s two-thirds making up what you pretend I must think. I’m glad it’s going well for you. I’m not sure my participation was necessary.
everyone who disagrees with you is wrong; therefore they must drop their silly principals and fall in line because things are getting worse.
leftists are highly engaged and vote, we’re the 3rd party people; that’s why the vote counts are always just as reliable as the republicans.
democrats are the ones tanked democrats when they didn’t show up to vote, so they’re your people; why not ask them?
this is not snark: i’m serious about this; digging into this is the reason why i’m not longer a democrat (i also know that i can’t sway you w stats, so this is the only way).
i experience the same thing when i make unpopular comments in the diet reddit instances like .world.
social media tribalism is a FASCINATING phenomenon. in the future there will be two lemmy’s, one with its original instances as it is now and another one with the diet reddit instances (assuming that they can figure out how to get more non-leftist content & community that can compete w bluesky, reddit, or twitter).
Lemmy was overflowing with leftists telling people not to vote, even when the alternative is naked fascism.
Telling people to please for the love of god stop saying that is not some ‘just because you disagreeeee’ situation.
And that absolves you, when you unironically write shit like “everyone who disagrees with you is wrong; therefore they must drop their silly principals?”
I am pulling the chute on this thread. Good day.
The Democrats were also offering naked fascism
Yeah sure buddy, Biden also wants to round up ten million people, citizenship be damned. He’s such a power-crazed dictator that he dropped out five months ago.
Never let reality get in the way of parroting “both sides!”
Biden has been spending his final months in power building migrant detention camps to hand off to Trump. The biggest policy of his administration has been an actual all out genocide.