• Comrade GitGud@lemmy.mlOP
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    Or you can choose something else entirely and not support a genocide. Turns out, if enough people do this, there’s even a small chance they might win. There’s even a chance that if they don’t win that this will push or even terrorize one of the major parties into moving to your position. But perhaps your conscience allows you to support a genocide. I certainly don’t have the stomach for that though.

    Edit: A word

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      Who are you suggesting to vote for in the US presidential race that doesn’t support Israel?

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          They didn’t even know what they’re talking about, they don’t even understand the US electoral system.

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            So your argument is they don’t understand the US presidential system because a vote against Biden in the Wisconsin Democratic primary is a vote for Trump?

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              No. I say that based on their own comments in this post.

              Edit. This community is ridiculous. It’s all people that don’t live in the US, and Don’t have a grasp on the US voting system, trying to tell other people in the US how they should vote. Fuck off. I’m blocking this nonsense comm. You all can have fun circle jerking each other.

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              Once you two are done licking hole in here you feel free to come back out to join the rest of us.

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                No thanks. People that don’t live in America telling Americans how to vote is beyond stupid. Have fun.

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      i live in the US where my choice is evil or more evil.

      youre telling me to choose more evil

      choosing more evil at home might make you feel better about foreign policy, you are voting against your own ability to make this choice in the future. you are making your home life worse thinking you are helping people abroad, but in the long run you are not only helping evil at home, you are not going to help those abroad as the US is more than the president. it is silly to pretend trump will do anything but help russia and israel.

      again, you only have 2 choices evil or more evil. pick one.

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        that is a false dilema, you also have, writting “Fuck Off I want someone better” on the ballot in that spot. Does it count as a vote… no… is it evil, no in the choice I gave you you did not chose evil at all.

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        You have a secret, third choice, not seen successfully on a US president since Kennedy.

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        Does the US not permit Write-In candidates or third parties? Crazy, I could have sworn they did. A miniscule, even infinitesimal chance of winning by voting for a not evil candidate sounds more morally palatable to me than voting for a war criminal. You do you though, I’m quite certain your conscience can handle it.

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          yes and no. depends on the state, but reality dictates in our current system and with the current candidates every vote for 3rd party will be a tacit vote for trump.

          dont vote? thats a vote for trump. vote for a 3rd party? thats a vote for trump.

          until we have an actual system that supports 3rd parties we have no choice. because the vote for trump/republicans leads to a system with less parties than 2, not more.

          my conscience says i want more parties. my conscience says ‘vote less evil not more’.

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            Amazing! All those votes that came in for Trump and they could have just voted 3rd party instead to get the same result! Why does anyone even bother voting for Trump? They could just vote for the person with the shortest name that isn’t Biden!

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            no they are not “votes for trump” are they votes biden is not getting yes, however the only way they are “Votes for trump” is if you are starting with the assumption that Biden either already has or inharently deserves the votes. He does not, he does not have my vote and not giving it to him is taking a vote from him. he has to earn it, and he has not

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            Actually if the US became a single party state for a term because there is no difference between the established parties, assuming first past the post is still in place, a 2nd party would be forced into electoral relevancy, so that would actually be the preferred outcome of not voting for the current two parties.

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      Turns out, if enough people do this, there’s even a small chance they might win.

      Do you have an examples you’d like to cite of this happening in the context of a US presidential election?

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          Oh so, what’s the arithmetic for how many times this has happened?

          0 + 0 = 0

          Coincidentally, that’s also the likelihood of this happening.

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              You’re already in here pretending to be a renowned electoral scholar. I say thier math adds up better than yours.