Would you pay what it costs to make. Because they make them, but you’re not going to find them at Best Buy on an 18 month payment plan. They’re going to start at $7k on steep sale for the smallest model if you’re lucky and work their way up in price. Everyone wants long lasting products, they just want them in made in China out of plastic component prices.
I think that’s one of two separate ways to solve some of the problems. Yes, there’s long lasting, industrial style, built like a tank and made to last that costs a lot as one solution. But there could also be cheaper products that wouldn’t last as long except that when something does go wrong you could buy a fairly cheap replacement part and swap it out using readily available tools. Both solutions can and should exist and would serve different markets.
I remember a time in history where appliances were made to last 20-30 years AND they didn’t cost 7k.
What you don’t understand is that the companies making products that only last a year exist solely to fleece you. The companies that turn around and sell you an appliance for 7k because they last longer than the pieces of shit from china are ALSO fleecing you.
You got it all wrong. We want to go back to the time when companies were doing business without fleecing the fuck out of you. All we want are fair prices for a fair product. That idea died a long time ago in the dumpster fire that we call “capitalism”.
Back when china wasn’t the world’s factory. You’re probably too young to know what that’s like since that trend largely started in the 80s but really became mainstream late 90s early 2000s.
Some of the best stuff ever made came from the US back when we were actually making things. We were really strong in this department post WW2 but since then corporate America has slowly but surely completely sold out to china, so now everything is super cheap crap that’s marked way up but built to last a year or two.
It may be hard to believe today with our fucked up economy, but there used to be a time (1950s-1990s) where quality stuff was made and it actually lasted 15 years and was affordable as well. My parents are only now throwing away old stuff from back then. The new stuff today is not the same at all.
That’s only if loaded with wifi and other crap. It’s totally possible to make a mechanical washer with a metal gear transmission that will last 10 years for $1,500.
If you’re wondering about the downvotes, I got brigaded by PRC simps. Lemmy doesn’t yet have the protection against this that Reddit had.
Would you pay what it costs to make. Because they make them, but you’re not going to find them at Best Buy on an 18 month payment plan. They’re going to start at $7k on steep sale for the smallest model if you’re lucky and work their way up in price. Everyone wants long lasting products, they just want them in made in China out of plastic component prices.
But we’re not paying what it costs to make them, we’re paying marked up profit earning prices.
If we purely paid materials/labour/etc they’d be cheaper than the shitty consumer models we have today.
I think that’s one of two separate ways to solve some of the problems. Yes, there’s long lasting, industrial style, built like a tank and made to last that costs a lot as one solution. But there could also be cheaper products that wouldn’t last as long except that when something does go wrong you could buy a fairly cheap replacement part and swap it out using readily available tools. Both solutions can and should exist and would serve different markets.
I remember a time in history where appliances were made to last 20-30 years AND they didn’t cost 7k.
What you don’t understand is that the companies making products that only last a year exist solely to fleece you. The companies that turn around and sell you an appliance for 7k because they last longer than the pieces of shit from china are ALSO fleecing you.
You got it all wrong. We want to go back to the time when companies were doing business without fleecing the fuck out of you. All we want are fair prices for a fair product. That idea died a long time ago in the dumpster fire that we call “capitalism”.
[Citation needed] When was that time in history?
Back when china wasn’t the world’s factory. You’re probably too young to know what that’s like since that trend largely started in the 80s but really became mainstream late 90s early 2000s.
Some of the best stuff ever made came from the US back when we were actually making things. We were really strong in this department post WW2 but since then corporate America has slowly but surely completely sold out to china, so now everything is super cheap crap that’s marked way up but built to last a year or two.
It may be hard to believe today with our fucked up economy, but there used to be a time (1950s-1990s) where quality stuff was made and it actually lasted 15 years and was affordable as well. My parents are only now throwing away old stuff from back then. The new stuff today is not the same at all.
That’s only if loaded with wifi and other crap. It’s totally possible to make a mechanical washer with a metal gear transmission that will last 10 years for $1,500.
If you’re wondering about the downvotes, I got brigaded by PRC simps. Lemmy doesn’t yet have the protection against this that Reddit had.