I felt like I was breathing through the eye of a needle, and my chest tightened considerably.
The Israeli interrogator had just asked me if I agreed to cooperate with them or not, if I would go down into a tunnel.
My nerves were on edge, my mind reeling; I didn’t know what I should choose.
It was after midnight on 7 December 2023 – the interrogator was sitting in front of me, a table in between us.
I was seated in a school chair, stripped down to my underwear and wrapped in a blanket.
My throat was still moistened from the sip of water I had just been given, and the sweet taste from the chocolate bar with nuts and dried banana chunks lingered in my mouth.
All these were enticements from the interrogator to gain my trust as he questioned me.
And just in another thread, when someone said that the Israelis are more sadistic than the Nazis, people got real angry and wanted to start comparing body counts.
There’s a difference between sending groups of people to extermination camps and and entire people taking joy in inflicting pain - that’s sadism. And Israelis (as a military force and an entire society) are 100x more sadistic than Nazi Germany was.
Heartbreaking.
We need to apply these rules to all conservatives. Any behavior by a conservative other than breathing or swiftly dying can only bring oppression or death to others.
Conservatives are the single greatest threat to all life on earth. In addition to being the sole source of all genocide and war throughout human history, conservatives also will never allow the normal people to address global heating, world hunger, disease, housing shortages, wealth inequality or any other problem humanity faces.
The continued existence of conservatives is an existential threat to everyone else. Conservatives should be treated as the deadly threat they are. Isreal’s continued genocide and the support it receives from conservatives around the world is evidence of this.
If you fight fascism with more fascism, fascism is guaranteed to win.
Violent opposition to fascism is not fascism. Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance. It is the cure.
I agree there’s no peaceful way to get rid of fascism, but proportionality is very important. I’m as angry at the Trump cult as the next guy, but you have to understand they’re victims of fascism as well. Not in equal part, but it’s not like they deserve death for being brainwashed.
Attempting to fight fascism in proportion is a deadly mistake.
Conservatives are not victims of their own conservatism. They are consistently dishonest, opposed to education, enemies of science and do not see nonconservatives as humans.
A conservative will never humanize you. This is because they are biologically unable to experience empathy. In fact, they despise empathy. They call it “woke” and insist it is fake, evil or a weakness.
This lack of empathy affects how they view other humans. Notice that a conservative thinks of his family as his property. He loves his wife the same way a teenager “loves” a sportscar. It’s a strong emotion, but not a deep emotional bond. This is because the ability to experience empathy is a component of a deep emotional bond. Conservatives do not humanize others because they simply cannot humanize others.
When conservatives have the option to incarcerate or kill you, they will do so immediately and without any sadness because you are not one of them. You are their enemy. Hear them when they say you are their enemy. You will be treated as such regardless of your kindness toward them. Hoping they will suddenly find compassion is an error that has preceded many genocides throughout history.
I mean sure but you’re using the term “conservative” which is deeply embedded in american rhetoric. You’re basically saying that anyone who isn’t an ardent communist or anarchist should die, which is not exactly what Popper meant either…
Conservative just means opposed to radical change. Sometimes the world gets enshittified. Sometimes a thing you gave for granted changes, and the change hurts because you know what it was like before.
Talking about ‘the conservatives’ as though they’re this amorphous entity is telling. I urge you to actually sit down in real life and have a heart to heart with someone who holds opposing political opinions instead of the endless doomscrolling you clearly subject yourself to. (this would require one who isn’t indoctrinated and would be open to honest conversation, which I’ll admit it’s getting harder and harder by the day).
Equating conservatism with de facto psychopathy won’t get you anywhere. Dehumanizing the enemy won’t either. The problem here isn’t that they aren’t human enough, it’s that they are extremely human, and thus extremely exploitable as one. Fascism is built upon uneducated workers, not a miraculously giant group of psychopaths. So fighting fascism is also done through education, and not mass genocide.
Again, please actually talk with conservatives, and give them a chance to speak. You’ll find their personal worries and fears aren’t as insane as you think. It’s just that those fears and worries have been warped and artificially directed at people that aren’t actually to blame for them. These people need to be educated on this.
The moment violence becomes inevitable is when powerful people hold a firm grasp on education and push anti intellectualism through every media channel they own. Because they do own every big media channel. Those are the heads that must roll, not the people’s.
Eat the rich, feed the poor.
I was born, raised, lived and retired in the deep south. I spent over 50 years being a good friend, neighbor, relative and colleague to conservatives. I’ve spent endless hours in friendly debates and trying to reason with them. Your presumption that I just haven’t given conservatives a chance leads me to understand that it is you who has not spent much time around conservatives.
I remember my genuine confusion and horror at how conservatives across the nation publicly celebrated the deaths of gay men dying of AIDS throughout the 80’s and 90’s. They actively opposed efforts by universities and researchers to find any treatment or cure because they openly wanted gay people to die. They admitted it openly and as a matter of policy for nearly 20 years. That alone should tell you who they are.
That’s just a single tiny example of the evil you are defending. It wasn’t just the rich or the media who celebrated the nonstop suffering and death. It was ALL conservatives. Every. Single. One.
Stop defending evil. Start defending their victims instead.
No fucking wonder the literacy rate in the US is abysmal. Imagine reading everything I’ve said and still claiming I’m defending evil. Instead of focusing education, just go and murder all your neighbors. The American way: kill first, ask questions later.
Trust and believe I understand the evils of the fascist regime in the US. You bet I understand that has been brewing for as long as there’s been British people in the Americas. I’m a transgender Arab, trust me, I get the hatred. But also being a trans Arab, I think a lot about the brothers and sisters I’ve lost to Israel. If you really think it’s best to murder every single Jewish Zionist because they’ve been getting brainwashed as early as the late 1800s, I think the conversation here is done.
I’m not calling for a 2 state solution in either places. The Ununited States of America will not survive anyways, neither will a Palestine and Israel who both live in Palestine. I’m calling for the dismantlement of the system that birthed these fascist ethnostates. Capitalism will always lead to fascism.
So instead of focusing on how much you hate your dad, or uncles, or neighbors or whomever pissed you off back in Georgia or wherever the fuck you’re from, you should focus on the people that fed them the beliefs that it’s the immigrants fault. Focus on Musk, Ellison, Zuckerberg, etc. It’s not even Trump himself, btw, that bozo is simply letting himself be used for his son in law and every oligarch that can suck his impotent penis good enough.
Don’t kill your neighbor, you won’t be left with a country.
So you want to be as bad as Israeli interrogators?
No. Israeli interrogators, like any other conservative, delight in the misery of others. I don’t want my enemies to suffer. I simply want them to stop existing.
