it should also be noted that modern “IQ” tests are much more detailed than just identifying patterns, it includes stuff like testing how well you can recount numbers forwards and backwards and whatnot.
You get scores for multiple different areas of cognition, like verbal comprehension, perceptual reasoning, working memory, and processing Speed.
For example i test highly in everything but working memory, where i got a hilariously low score of 80 which rather reflects how i feel when i forget food in the microwave oven…
WTF does that have to do with intelligence? That’s just memorization.
As someone with zero short term (working) memory, I’d fail that part, yet people are always astounded at what I remember (and I work with crazy complex systems).
What a crock.
(I typically test just over 100 on IQ tests - not a brag, just more to show how useless they are).
WTF does that have to do with intelligence? That’s just memorization.
Well, first of all “intelligence” is an incredibly broad concept which is better described as “cognition”, and second: Yes that’s precisely the point, these days they test multiple things so the result is actually fairly useful.
I’m not sure how testing your ability to memorize things is supposed to be crock? Are you saying that memorization isn’t useful, that it doesn’t affect your ability to do mental tasks?
Because i’d certainly disagree with that claim. Having a poor working memory suck big fat donkey balls, it makes life incredibly annoying and basic tasks can be extremely difficult because i literally just fucking forget to do them. Without my phone to write reminders on and set alarms i would need daily assistence just to function at a level that most people take completely for granted.
WTF does that have to do with intelligence? That’s just memorization.
“IQ” is best summarized in the fewest possible words as basically “a measure of how quickly people learn”. Thus it is an important aspect - one of many aspects - of IQ (which, by the way, has very limited scope in what it is attempting to measure).
People think IQ = smart, or IQ = intelligence[1], but really it’s really not. I went on a rant about this in a separate comment, using my own life as an example (I have a high IQ, which has helped me in ways, but is largely useless for my success and happiness in life)/
They aren’t ‘useless’. There’s a reason despite it’s flaws that it is still used today: It is a very good predictor of academic outcome.
That said, way too many assume it can do far more than it’s supposed to.
it should also be noted that modern “IQ” tests are much more detailed than just identifying patterns, it includes stuff like testing how well you can recount numbers forwards and backwards and whatnot.
You get scores for multiple different areas of cognition, like verbal comprehension, perceptual reasoning, working memory, and processing Speed.
For example i test highly in everything but working memory, where i got a hilariously low score of 80 which rather reflects how i feel when i forget food in the microwave oven…
Recount numbers forward and backwards?
WTF does that have to do with intelligence? That’s just memorization.
As someone with zero short term (working) memory, I’d fail that part, yet people are always astounded at what I remember (and I work with crazy complex systems).
What a crock.
(I typically test just over 100 on IQ tests - not a brag, just more to show how useless they are).
Well, first of all “intelligence” is an incredibly broad concept which is better described as “cognition”, and second: Yes that’s precisely the point, these days they test multiple things so the result is actually fairly useful.
I’m not sure how testing your ability to memorize things is supposed to be crock? Are you saying that memorization isn’t useful, that it doesn’t affect your ability to do mental tasks?
Because i’d certainly disagree with that claim. Having a poor working memory suck big fat donkey balls, it makes life incredibly annoying and basic tasks can be extremely difficult because i literally just fucking forget to do them. Without my phone to write reminders on and set alarms i would need daily assistence just to function at a level that most people take completely for granted.
“IQ” is best summarized in the fewest possible words as basically “a measure of how quickly people learn”. Thus it is an important aspect - one of many aspects - of IQ (which, by the way, has very limited scope in what it is attempting to measure).
People think IQ = smart, or IQ = intelligence[1], but really it’s really not. I went on a rant about this in a separate comment, using my own life as an example (I have a high IQ, which has helped me in ways, but is largely useless for my success and happiness in life)/
It’s right there in the name! ↩︎