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    9 months ago

    Information not mentioned in this article:

    In Italy speeding fines are a fixed amount based on how far over the limit you’re going, which makes them a regressive tax on going fast - wealthy people can sinply afford to speed as much as they like while the poor suffer. That woman they quoted who clearly thought the cameras would meaningfully deter speeding was full of shit; the cameras are there to generate revenue, not reduce speeding.

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    In the article it says Italy has a high death rate due to people speeding. I was curious how it compares to the of the EU. This data is from 2021 though, and apparently numbers today are slightly higher.

    1. Romania: 85 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    2. Bulgaria: 81 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    3. Latvia: 78 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    4. Croatia: 72 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    5. Poland: 59 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    6. Greece: 57 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    7. Hungary: 56 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    8. Lithuania: 52 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    9. Portugal: 52 road deaths per million inhabitants.
    10. Cyprus: 50 road deaths per million inhabitants.
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      Looks like Italy was 52 per million in 2019, and the United States was 129 per million in 2021 so that’s exciting for my country…

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        'Murcia needs to start taking road safety seriously.

        But of course, the “muh rights” crowd won’t shut the fuck up, so here we are…

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          You could say America needs to start taking a lot of things more seriously.

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            Yes. And if you had infrastructure, they could have done that trip on a high speed train instead of you having to drive.

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            What’s the argument here? That because you drive twice as far, it is expected you run over twice as many people?

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            Keep in mind that traffic in the US is simply more dangerous then in Europe. Traffic in the US consist of a large number of pick up trucks which are heavy and not designed to be friendly to other traffic in an accident. There are more factors, but my key takeaway is accidents versus deadly accidents.

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            Why are they so far away? There is logic to what you’re saying, according to this website Americans drive on average twice as far as Italians/Germans etc. so if you scale by that America is still slightly higher but not as bad.

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    As she headed to her son’s grave, she told the BBC that the Fleximan enigma reflected a culture that tells people they have the right to feel that rules do not apply to them.

    Do the rules apply to the rich? It’s how many poorer think it is. Maybe, the authorities should begin with applying them to the rich with for example higher taxes and better welfare aka reducing poverty.

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      She’s fine with her son dying as long as that driver gets a ticket 2 weeks later in the post.

      These cameras obviously don’t solve the problem…

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    Am American living in Italy. I can’t explain it, but Italian drivers are the most aggressive drivers I have ever seen (and I’ve lived in three different continents). It’s odd because getting a driver’s license here costs upwards of 800 euros (think about this number in a country where the median income is close to 1,500 euro /mo). Also, the roads are extremely treacherous and narrow, further exacerbating the problem. But every time I get on the road I fear it’s my last day on earth.

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    A “vigilante” isn’t just a person acting outside of the law that some people agree with. They’re usually about punishing wrongdoers, not protecting them.

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      They’re punishing whoever put those cameras up