The guy you replied to said this:

Or you could… vote in the primaries?

The US has a convoluted run-off system that really should be simplified, but you can vote to select which of the two finalists will stand in the general election. Of course it falls apart for MAGA and leftist types (basically the same kind of people) that think if the majority of people voted for someone they don’t like it must be because the system is somehow rigged.

Everyone in my social media bubble thinks the same way so there’s no way people voted for someone who’s not MAGA/communist! The system must be rigged!

They are not a serious person.

That’s not what an ad hominem is, dumb-dumb, take a Latin or Logic class. Please quote to me where you think I did an ad hominem and then provide a definition for it so I can laugh in your fucking face about another thing you don’t know. You are doing a fallacy where you think my calling you a dumb idiot liar somehow negates all the points I brought up because your babybrain can’t handle numbers higher than two, and somehow I can roast the shit out of you while simultaneously negating your points. The best you can get is that I said only fucking morons would believe the stupid shit you say, but even that fails to capture that I explained why it was stupid dumbass fucking bullshit lies that you managed to regurgitate from your master.

It’s just loser behavior over and over again because you simply repeated everything with nothing additional. Anyway, hope you get that Israel money or whatever you’re in this for because you keep trying to high road lies like a foreign agent. Let me know when you have a fourth (wow, big number alert!) piece of evidence so I can take your argument seriously.

It’s the same conspiracy shit every time with the same shitty evidence. This isn’t even difficult to counter, it would only convince the twelve year olds that make up Destiny and H3h3’s audience.

indicated that the prongs had been improperly removed and the opening taped over, instead of using a padded replacement cover for the underside, which they also sell. Indicating a rush job to hide the shock prongs.

It does not indicate that. It does not disprove that, but it doesn’t fucking indicate that. You know what it indicates? That it was improperly removed. Okay.

Do you think he had fucking seconds to “hide” the evidence? Those things require very little time to remove. But he had to rush to hide the evidence that he himself provided??? Are you requiring a refill on that glue???

Hasan has also had a guest who commented on the collar being very tight (“can’t even fit one finger” was the quote), which would make sense for using a poorly fitted shock collar, which this one would be indeed.

Or. Or. Or…, that he used a collar that was intended for smaller dogs. The one thing you can point out is that the guest did say the collar was tight. That’s fucking it. And it’s weird that he was able to “hide the evidence” of the shock prongs, but he didn’t just hide the whole fucking collar or anything else. It’s the fucking fascist mindset, where he is simultaneously smart enough to hide the evidence, but dumb enough not to hide the same evidence.

Hasan also changed his story several times as well. He started by claiming it wasn’t a shock collar, to them later claiming that it was a shock collar but that he had the prongs removed. I believe he changed it further, but those are the most relevant I believe.

Damn, dude. So many fucking changes. How could you keep up, two is a really big number for you! If you don’t use it as a shock collar, I wouldn’t call it a shock collar. And he didn’t. It’s not a shock collar to me, even if it has shock capabilities, if it doesn’t have prongs. That’s pretty fucking logical to me, it only wouldn’t be if I dropped bricks on my head for fun. Is that not logical to you? Ask your mom if that makes sense, she hasn’t heard from you in a while.

Explain to me why he bothered to dispose of the evidence so poorly but also not at all with all the time he had. Because he had fucking months to dispose of the evidence (remember, that clip was a couple months old before it went viral for this fake conspiracy shit.)

Nah dude. That fucking collar is a vibration collar. It also has shock capabilities, dingdong. You can put in and remove the fucking prongs really easily. I have seen the exact same fucking collar. But if you don’t remove the prongs, you wouldn’t fucking touch the dogs skin with that collar because those prongs were made for smaller dogs, but the vibrations and noise would be fine because those don’t rely on skin contact. The fact that this doesn’t matter to you is evident. It didn’t make a noise in whatever clip you are talking about is because they didn’t use it.

Damn, I am on fucking fire answering these. What’s your next fucking curveball? “Oh yeah, if I’m a paste eater, how come I’m all out of paste?” Donate money to an animal shelter and tell people to stop going to pet breeders. You would do more for animals that way than whatever the fuck you think you’re doing here.

You people are so fucking dumb.

There is no way those prongs would hit Kaya’s skin. I know that because I have a family member with the exact same brand of collar. Those prongs are pretty short, and you wouldn’t even fucking bother. It is an excellent noisemaker for the dog. You can use it for long-range calling. It makes a loud beep and buzzes really well, and pretty much every dog is going to react to that.

Combine that with the “evidence” given, anyone that believes he shocked his dog is dumber than a box of nails. Wow, someone here said they looked at stillframes! Motherfuckers do the exact same thing as moon landing denialists and flat earthers do. It is insane to me that a fucking 15 second clip is groundbreaking evidence these fucking mouthbreathers give for a thing that even if it was true, would be relatively fucking minor to them, but goddamn do they fall for the same shit every time.

It is so weird that you are pretending he’s just some random nobody, but then seem to get really defensive about his politics and the amount of clout he seems to have with said politics.

Like, you don’t have to post here if you don’t really care about him. But, the fact that you keep posting seems to imply that you absolutely do care about him. Idk, man, that combined with your stance of how great centrism is, it looks like you want to look nonchalant about him without having to defend why you don’t like him (or more likely, his politics.)

Sorry, I forgot the last line:

And if I didn’t do any research, it’s because i already know I’m right and everyone else is wrong.

I don’t know who he is.
But if I do know who he is, he’s not very famous.
But if he is famous, he’s not doing anything newsworthy.
But if he is doing something newsworthy, it’s not very important.
But if he is doing something important, I didn’t do any research about him.

Fair. I do still think that everyone agrees with that because while these people don’t want anyone to touch any rights, they’ll ostensibly agree that “some people” shouldn’t have guns, whether that’s criminals or “criminals” or what have you.

So, in a way, I do think even 2A people agree, they just don’t think that it is either possible (“criminals will just ignore the law” like you can just find guns wherever) or that it’s the intention behind gun control (going after political dissidents).

My statement was more that the gun control that Democrats propose is basically nothing, and that it’s just a fucking wedge issue that also happens to consistently make gun manufacturers money. Are Dems supposed to lie and say letting teachers have guns solves gun violence in schools to appease these fuckers? Like, what the fuck are we talking about here?

Lmao.

I can’t even think of anything they do other than ban assault weapons and implement red flag laws. They just usually say “sensible gun reform”, and, like, everyone agrees with that, so I just don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Legitimately, the only time I hear about Dems attacking guns is when there’s a fucking election and Republicans and gun manufacturers claim they’ll take your guns away. I’m still waiting on Obama to take my guns.

People like you live in a fairy tale, and they always will. That a mythical third party will come along and win with no work towards it, perfectly aligned to court a majority of voters. “No, the Democratic party cannot be reformed. Do not vote in the primary or participate in caucuses. Only a third party I won’t name nor will I give any instructions on finding will solve our problems.”

It’s, frankly, horseshit. You are the same as a fucking doomsayer saying the end is nigh, using numberology to prove it’ll happen next Thursday.

You people want to have a third party in a voting system strictly opposed to third parties. How the fuck do you plan to get those third parties elected with 5% of the vote?

Don’t get me wrong. It’s great for feeling morally superior! If you never have to make a hard choice in your life, you can pretend any problem isn’t your fucking responsibility, not your fucking fault.

Anyway, this guy is either an accelerationist or an operative designed to get you to be apathetic towards voting. Just fucking vote, and do basic fucking math to realize there is no national third party that will save you. If you hate the Democratic party, join your local party and berate the shit out of them to change. That’ll do more than this shit plan of voting third party ever will.

The idiot you replied to probably couldn’t name a female athlete, let alone a trans one.

It’s a computer, so it can’t be non-binary.

Apathy doesn’t accomplish anything. Action does. Action other than no kings protests and bitching online.

Then why are you currently bitching online and being apathetic?

Talk to a therapist, buddy. And if you can’t afford that, talk to a real person. If everyone was like you, we’d still be exactly where we are. Do not kid yourself and grandstand on morals when you would sacrifice the people you pretend to care about.

You are not better than anyone else. Stop pretending you are.

Simplicity is childish. And yet you fucking agree with it.

It isn’t complex. The “complexity” is that Israel is a military ally, and we sell fucktons of weapons to them. The “complexity” is that Israel justifies their actions by pretending that the political situation is complex. The “complexity” is that Israel contributes lots of money to various politicians to let them do their genocide. The “complexity” is that Israel pretends to represent all Jewish people and uses them as a shield for their actions and then calls any criticism antisemitism.

The complex part is that the US doesn’t want to intervene, in spite of an internationally recognized duty to do so should a genocide be happening. That’s why people don’t want to call it a genocide. If you call it a genocide, you have to do what you can to stop it. But no, we can sweep the hundred thousand plus dead Palestinian children under the fucking rug.

The “complex” part is that it’s a genocide. Anyone that defends this shit (including you) is a fucking depraved loser.

Israel is murdering children daily, intentionally. Please explain how that is complex? Just follow your own fucking ceasefire and stop murdering children and let fucking aid in and stop murdering journalists. See how un-fucking-complicated it is?

Or is there a complex reason that should keep going?

It is truly sad that you believe these things. Especially because your logic explicitly makes coalition building impossible, and thus a revolution equally as impossible.

How the fuck do you expect to build a revolution when you can’t make a concession or work with people you disagree with?

You are the definition of perfect being the enemy of good enough. I get that you want to save everyone right now. Cool. Great. Uh, one problem: FUCKING HOW??? You live in a fucking fairy tale if you think you can do these things. Your ideals kill the people you think you are standing up for, and it is shitty behaviors.

You aren’t doing what you do to save queer people. You’re not doing what you do to save minorities. You’re not doing this for any noble reason.

You are doing this so that YOU DON’T HAVE TO FEEL BAD. You are doing it because the people that might die from your lack of doing anything won’t weigh on your shoulders. And to that, I say, you should feel more of the remorse than those that tried to make things better. Because they tried.

But, you won’t. The type of person who thinks voting third party or not voting will save people are the exact type of people who will say “It wasn’t my fault.” when people die, because they tried one thing that did jackshit.

You can have good and push for better a shitton easier than having perfect from the beginning.

Fucking there you go, buddy. Are we going to finally admit that you just want a violent revolution? Good job, if true.

Now, I do have to point out that voting third party and not voting are, indirectly, voting for the status quo, so you did sort of box yourself in with that zingy one-liner. Thanks for the agreement, though.

Anyway, surely you realize that vulnerable groups suffer the most in a revolution, right? So, if you don’t really have them on board, then you are condemning many of them to death. Who is going to join you? Obviously, not liberals, since you refuse to negotiate with them. So… Uh… Do you think there’s enough leftists to make up for that deficit? Because I fucking don’t. I have trouble getting people I know in real life to understand that capitalism is the cause of most or all of their problems. But, if you can, let me know! I’ll be there!

Fundamentally, I agree with that. Fundamentally, I am exactly on board with everything you and they have said. And fundamentally, that is not the hand that has been dealt in that situation.

Third parties cannot win a Presidential election in the US as the system currently stands. So, voting for a third party is either a nonvote or a vote for the defacto winner. Advocating for a third party candidate because your candidate lost the primaries is loser behavior. Because you cannot have your way, you’re going home. And if that decision fucks over the very people you are pretending to protect, then you should feel just as culpable for that as anyone that did vote for that.

Fucking like it or not, trans people would be better under Newsom than any Republican. Fucking Kamala Harris did jackshit to defend trans kids, but she wouldn’t be actively trying to harm them right now as President.

It is disgusting to me to pretend that not voting or voting third party is somehow stopping genocide or protecting queer people. It just isn’t. All it does is make you feel better.