User pointed to a history of bad behaviour to counter the idea of “lets wait”. User suggested to learn from history and use that as a metric for decisions.
You just trolled your way into this and think consequentially you are ‘clever’. You are not.
The best argument I heard to defederate and have noting to do with Meta is this; this is the company that had/has a platform where hate, disinformation and lies have created a divide in society, several older generations were ‘socially engineered’ to start to think differently, more absolute and right wing. In short, Meta has a platform known for causing division amongst countrymen and families.
Pre-emptive nuking is what is needed, followed by some DDT thrown over it for good measure. This needs to stop. This is not a technical decision, this is a social one in order to try and save us from that shitshow FB/Zuck/Meta gave us.
Yes, the reasonable stance. Because that worked every time, all the time with commercial entities.
The alternative realities allowed to exist in conservative or republican groups/communities.
I severely wish for this to not happen here. But I’m not naive, conservatives always follow and then start to destruct what others have created.
Is /r/conservative leaking into lemmy?
I get what you are saying but you cannot use that wording as the opposing side would focus on the crassness of your statement.
Smile, be friendly and call then Moms for Hitler. They will protest, be offended even. But you can back this up: “then why did they promote Hitler quotes on their frontpage? Moms for Hitler sounds fair if your group quotes the man.” There will be arguments about how this was a ‘mistake’. This is easily dismissed by finger-quoting gestures and saying “why yes, who amongst us here did not quote Hitler by accident at one point and then published it on the frontpage of the organisation, totally by <emphasise finger-quoting vigorously> ‘accident’”
You can see where this is going, it will be an utterly frustrating thing to combat this statement as it has truth in it.
So you keep calling them by that name and be sure to be polite and friendly, but just keep calling them Moms for Hitler, do not relent on this.
This vile and vicious group deserves the anguish and frustration.
What did you just achieve? Nothing really other then annoying and frustrating delusional people and make them seethe with anger and frustration.
I’ll take it…
Nope but I didn’t use twitter either, nor will I use Mastodon. Just not my cup of tea as it is a vile place and you can clearly see in the last couple of twitter years why I was right on this one. Mastodon and Threads will suffer the same fate imho. This type of platform attracts…certain weird and extreme people.
Moms For Hitler
After all, they quote him on their frontpage so lets call them for what they truly are. These are not moms, they are hate machines.
Oh. Oh wow wow. Seems to work on different instances as well? This I tried for VLemmy.net :
What has more value for them?
One gets you limited time to rile up your base and the other you can keep using without having to proof a damn thing. You do the math.