On the Harris🤎Cheney issue, I think it’s notable that the Harris turnout was actually quite large in many places, but the trump turnout was larger.

I can’t remember what media I was doomfully consuming, but someone basically said Dems should not try to court Republicans to vote… because even if it works, they’ll arrive at the polls and vote Republican.

I’m not aligned with Kinzinger but I don’t really see the kissass vibes. I think he remains as principled as ever but he is acknowledging the new conditions of the game.

I think I’ve heard about enough of experts predicting the future lately.

He won’t stay in power. His appointment of incompetent sycophants will dismantle 250 years of American prosperity (maliciously or negligently, it doesn’t matter) and it will be sold for parts to billionaires and foreign states.

I signed up, out of curiosity but I don’t have any friends there that I know about. Kinda like Lemmy, but Lemmy but works great for not having friends.

It’s the extreme leaps to wild conjecture that you’re asserting here that makes it so difficult to take you seriously. It’s hard for me to conclude you aren’t a troll. It’s simply not normal or healthy to make assessments of the intentions of people who barely said anything. Not one of us is an oracle like that. In the off chance that you are intending to be a serious person who just happens to have a bad attitude and chip on your shoulder, I sincerely hope you have lovely and supportive people around you. You deserve the best.

I have been downvoted and it caused me to introspect.

It doesn’t necessarily change my values or even my position but it is a signal for me to think about the way I’m thinking about stuff. It means I’m clearly missing a perspective.

In the case of you, I think there are enough people trying to reply with reasoning that the up votes and downvotes are just other people supporting positions and expressing their rejection of a position which is already being refuted. They’re adding signal without noise.

My man, do you hear yourself? You’re on tirades flying off the handle all over the forum. Bent out of shape over Internet points, meanwhile other folks are actually replying to you. Get over yourself. Hug a family member or something.

Sometimes I downvote something when I’m annoyed by the time I spent reading it, and I’m merely trying to signal to the good folks here that they can spend their time a better way. Not every dumb take deserves an actual reply. In fact almost none of them do. I just want to help people who value their time, as they have done for me. That is pretty much the purpose of the voting system. We’re helping each other out.

Thanks for the perspective. I guess I got in at a good time, and I didn’t hear any reports of long lines in my area.

I don’t know why so many people are hurt by this statement. The turnout was abysmal.

What should someone even do to respond to a viewpoint like this?

I’m pretty excited to see the left wing numerologists emerge from the woodwork. Don’t forget to buy those supplements.

I got in line to vote. It was a very short line.

Now that’s just a signal for training reinforcement

Guilty <-

These are just regular ass manipulative shithead moves… What else would anyone expect from Trump and Cult 45?

Like so many other things, I doubt his camp even cares.

Daily beast published the referenced samples on YouTube.

It’s alright, it’s art. You can’t expect it to reach everyone the same way.

This smells like ego projection. These are tools for jobs, they don’t have to compete.