Rayquetzalcoatl

It’s basically karma, but exclusively - in my experience - describes negative outcomes. Similar to “just desserts”.

I honestly still just feel like we’re agreeing on the order of things here though. Premoral behaviours develop naturally, become ingrained, and then get written into religions or spirituality to give them even more weight – sort of like how a lot of myths about evil water spirits supposedly being warnings to children to not play near water cos they’ll drown.

Just to clarify, when I say “written into” I’m not necessarily meaning physically written down. I mean more like “built into”.

I don’t think we’re disagreeing here, right?

Thanks for the response :) it’s an interesting question you’ve raised, and I haven’t looked into it enough really.

I think I’ve keyed into your phrasing, particularly “precursor”, in my answer. If “premoral behaviour” is a step in developing morality, does that make it a precursor?

What happens between premoral behaviour and morality that develops it? I would have assumed that reward/punishment behaviours between humans socially based on those “premoral” behaviours I described would have led to more nuanced moral systems that would have then been written into religious and spiritual practices.

What do you think happens between premorality and morality? What role does spirituality or religion play – does a higher power give us our morals?

It doesn’t serve us well to murder our own communities. It doesn’t serve us well to cause conflict and strife among ourselves when external circumstances are tough enough.

Living on the steppe or on the savannah would have been extremely tough, and I believe that pragmatism would have naturally lead to a sort of morality – don’t steal from, harm, kill, antagonise other people in your group or you’re putting the entire group at risk.

It doesn’t have to be spiritual or religious!

Absolutely fuck off

In my view, beliefs are important. To me, a person is built from their beliefs.

Beliefs are mutable and can change for all sorts of reasons, at all sorts of speeds, and in all sorts of ways. They’re not permanent, but I do think they’re fundamental to the character of a person.

Presumably that OP is white and in the hypothetical they would remain white

I don’t think OP is talking about mainstream music. I think OP is talking about mainstream music streaming services (i.e. Spotify)

Isn’t the saying “Pot calling the kettle black”? I’m also not sure about the “all that and a bag of chips” – it doesn’t refer to getting free things, it means something similar to “the bee’s knees”.

What does your last sentence mean? What data are you seeing?

I know I wouldn’t take back a partner who broke the trust in our relationship, and I’d hope other people would have enough self respect not to either!

Believe it or not… You’ve got Hitler Squared now 🤷‍♂️

It might be time to go for a walk outside mate

Huh?

Haha yeah that’s what I mean; the marketers at work are constantly blathering on about how we need to develop for ChatGPT and it’s just like… Fuck off 😂

They’re building the internet for AI now, and were building it for advertisers for years before that, what with SEO choking up search results.

What should have been a wonderfully expressive, collaborative, and unifying medium is just being completely ravaged.

I, unfortunately, work in web development.

Seems like a bit of a mean-spirited response out of nowhere

Or that prehistoric women and girls were extraterrestrial beings who, by and large, simply teleported away and died off-world, thus not leaving remains for us to find.

Hale-Bopp is absolutely chock full of the remains of prehistoric women. It’s crazy up there. Can’t even play hopscotch, what with all the femurs and skulls everywhere.

Ohh like if the couple is gonna have kids? Makes sense! Thanks for clearing that up!

I follow most of these points but I’m not sure I understand point 4?

Religious schools definitely exist!