You’re looking at this with a very closed mind. This isnt (currently) being designed for people to just do normal computer stuff but in their brain. This technology has huge potential for improving prosthetics and treating neurological disorders.

Neat, I haven’t tried the Jitsi integration so I wasn’t aware it had persistent rooms. That’s the main thing I need to exist, I’ll have to give it a try. Although, I do still greatly prefer the format of servers and channels, rather than spaces and rooms.

Channels that function similar to discords? You can start a voice call in a room or create voice calls, but those function pretty differently from Discord voice channels.

I love Matrix but it really isnt a good discord replacement. It’s much closer to Telegram or Lemmy. It doesnt even have voice channels, the main reason everyone I know uses Discord. I hope we do get a proper decentralized discord alternative at some point.

Fair enough, I haven’t worked in an industry with requirements like that. Can you share an example of software you would use for a setup like that? I’m interested in learning more about it. I wonder how many companies are currently using a solution like that with Linux.

Wayland itself isn’t doing anything to prevent those solutions from working, but nobody has chosen to create a solution like that supporting Wayland. If the companies working on and funding Wayland need a solution like that, then they can make or fund it.

Right now, Wayland is good enough to be used on employee workstations for most peoples day to day work, because most people dont work at a company using a solution like you described.

After 15 years, Wayland is lacking some things X11 has, but has also far surpassed it in many ways. Linux is now usable on HiDPI and has proper color management. Companies like Redhat aren’t picking features at random, they’re prioritizing what their biggest customers need, because thats what makes money. Again, just to reiterate, Wayland supports the usecases you’ve described, but companies haven’t made software for this usecases that works with Wayland.

Wayland may not be a better replacement for you, but is sure is for a ton of users and organizations.

Rustdesk is an alright remote desktop option, although it definitely far from perfect. Wayland offers the support remote desktop needs, this is just up to someone wanting a solution enough to make it.

I agree that the “every frame being perfect” thing was dumb, but tearing support exists so its not really a complaint anymore.

Nvidia does work fine on every major Wayland implementation.

Screensharing works fine.

I understand the disappointment in how long Wayland is taking to be a perfect replacement to X11, but a proper replacement should absolutely not be rushed. X11 released 40 years ago, 15 years to make a replacement with better security and more features is fine.

Wayland has put a huge emphasis on improved security, which is also one of the biggest reasons some features have taken so long. This is a good thing, rushing insecure implementations of features is a horrible idea for modern software that will hopefully last a long time.

In its current state, Wayland is already good for the large majority of use cases.

What issues do half of your X11 apps? Ive never had an issue with an X11 app running through Xwayland, although I also dont have many X11 apps left.

Plasma and Hyprland already have one

Things like desktop automation, screen sharing, screen recording, remote desktop etc. are incredibly broken, with no hope in sight because the core design of Wayland simply didn’t account for them(!?), apparently.

All of those things function on Wayland using the right protocols. If they dont work for you, either the DE/WM you use has not implemented the protocols, or the app you’re using has chosen not to implement Wayland support yet.

For automation there is ydotool and wlrctl. Ive also seen a tool called Hawck which seems neat, but I haven’t tried it.

I’ve never seen an issue with screen recording, OBS has worked fine with Wayland for a long time. I use GPU Screen Recorder on Wayland everyday.

Screensharing portals have existed for a while now, I haven’t run into any apps that still haven’t implemented them. Ive used it just fine on Discord and through multiple browsers.

Remote desktop also has a portal that any remote desktop app could implement. Rustdesk has experimental Wayland support which has worked for me. GNOME and Plasma also have built in RDP.

Ive seen a staggering amount of students who relied entirely on AI fail out of the masters program I’m in. Cheating only gets you so far.

The most important parts are at the end of the CPU and GPU performance sections. They performed the same across all desktops. On most modern systems the desktop you use is not going to have any significant impact on your performance, when software you’re running requires resources, they will be directed towards it.

Also, low RAM usage is massively overrated, especially by Linux users. Your RAM is there to be used, leaving it unused is a waste. It is good for your desktop to be caching a lot of data in RAM when it is otherwise unused. It’s only an issue if its still utilizing an excessive amount of RAM when other apps need it more.

I use Obsidian LiveSync

Yep, didnt make a single sensible point. Just anecdotes and irrelevant examples. I’m bad at ignoring an argument so I went and blocked lol

That’s not what a false equivalency is, but ok.

FOSS has this reputation among most people.

Most people don’t have any clue what FOSS is. They just want software, and if its free and works, they’ll like it.

I am genuinely curious why you think people pay money for worse software though…

I provided two reasons in my post. Superior marketing and professional support.

That was my entire point. The person I was originally replying to seemed to suggest exactly that.

Ok, but thats not what you went on to say.

You are not arguing in good faith, I don’t care to continue going in circles.

You’re a fucking weirdo

How is that false equivalency? Comparing fdroid to the play store is about as close as you can get.

Like I said, there is bad FOSS software, but that doesnt make it generally false. People pay for software that doesnt have a good free alternative, they pay for support, and often they will pay to use software that has good marketing because they are simply unaware of the alternatives.

I’m not saying all FOSS software is great, but lots of software does have great FOSS options, for example, Firefox, Blender, and Bevy. Obviously there are also examples of proprietary software without a great alternative, like Photoshop. I like FOSS, but I don’t avoid proprietary solutions that do a better job. Believe it or not, I still end up using mostly FOSS software.

You’re not backing your points up with any actual reasoning or examples while also being condescending about it.

Works fine for me, I’ve used it with both Nvidia and AMD.

The fuck? There is nothing sexual about the character at all. Calling it pedophilic says a whole lot more about you than the software.

You can also go on the play store and find a huge list of proprietary apps that haven’t been updated.

You need some actual stats to back up this point. Plenty of proprietary software is unsuccessful because it fails to profit, so its shut down. At least FOSS software will continue as long as someone finds it useful enough to keep it going. Plus the obvious, that if you like a piece of software you can maintain it yourself.

Also saying that FOSS software is “notoriously low quality” is silly. There’s tons of great and important FOSS software and plenty of shit FOSS software, just like proprietary software. Your comments just ignore how much proprietary shovelware exists.

Or they’re just adding improvements to the software they heavily rely on.

I don’t trust or like Microsoft, but the likelihood of there being malicious intentions in this is incredibly low. Just imagine the fallout if Microsoft tried to sabotage the kernel.